Tunisia Ben Ali son-in-law granted asylum in Seychelles
The son-in-law of Tunisia's former president has been granted asylum in the Seychelles, officials say.
Businessman Sakher El Materi was arrested as he tried to enter in the island state in December 2012 and reportedly applied to stay in February.
He had fled Tunisia for Qatar after the uprising that ousted President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali in January 2011.
Months later, a court in Tunisian convicted him of corruption in absentia.
Materi, along with his wife and their three children, have now been granted a 12-month residence permit in the Seychelles, according to its immigration department.
The Indian Ocean archipelago was a regular holiday destination for the former president and his close family.
The country's law did not make specific provisions for political asylum, a government statement said.
But the permit was issued because it believed Materi would not receive justice in his home nation, according to AFP news agency.
"The government of Seychelles has not satisfied itself that the conditions exist in Tunisia at this point for a free and fair trial if Mr El Materi were to be repatriated back to face the charges set out against him there," immigration officials said.
Materi was convicted of corruption in absentia, along with his wife, Nesrine, and her father, Tunisia's ousted president.
Materi and Ben Ali were sentenced to 16 years in prison and Nesrine was given an eight-year jail term.
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17-04-2013: Seychelles: Tunisia seeks arrest of Sakhr el Materi
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Tunisia has formally requested the Seychelles authorities to stop the son of the deposed president Sakhr Elmatri by referring to an international arrest warrant issued against him.
This request was made after obtaining Sakhr Materi and his family a residence permit for one year in the Seychelles.
The Department of Immigration Seychelles expressed concern that the son of the deposed president could not enjoy a fair trial in Tunisia to justify its decision.
On the run since January 2011, Sakhr Materi continued in several corruption cases.
Adel Riahi, director of the Information Office at the Department of Justice states that an international arrest warrant was issued against Mr. Materi and that it is on the red list.
Mr. Riahi emphasizes the need to respect international law.
More to come ..........
Asylum claims can and should, wherever possible, be made to an immigration officer as soon as an asylum seeker arrives at his/her first port of call.
Asylum seekers have been convicted for using false passports or travel documents (for example, to leave their country of origin). Their conviction then adversely affects their credibility when their asylum claim is considered.
In addition to the evidence submitted by the asylum applicant, case owners take into account other information such as sources of information on the political and human rights situation in the person’s country of origin which in the case of El MATERI was Qatar.
Claim may be harmed if they delayed claiming asylum without good reason, or if they have been convicted of a criminal offence such as using false travel documentation, or if they did not claim asylum in the first safe country they reached after leaving their own country (known as a ‘safe third country’).
El Materi and the Seychelles Government has not followed the regulations.
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To the first post.You right but only when there is already existing laws on the issue.Seychelles doesnot have Asylum Laws.so be it to immigration officers,to Mancham,to my dog none is about the law and therefore none can formulate their own laws.Wh oshould be doing what is only legitimate if there is already laws on the issue.
Whatever the reasons given by PP,El Materi present in our country cannot be justifiedby any argument.Why?
-In 2011 when El mAteri with Ben Ali fled Tunisia they found refuge in Saudi Arabia where all Ben Ali family members had been granted Asylum since.That Le mAteri came two years latter illegally to our shores and asked for Asylum is a farce.
_Pp argued that becuase the situation in Tunisia EL MAteri cannot be send back.Well,PP since El Materi in 2011 didnot flew directly from Tunisia to our shores to asked for Asylum and since the first country they entered was Saudi Arabia,the question of whether Seychelles ogvernemnt should send him back or not ,SHOULD BE NOT A ISSUE.WHY?Acording to Interantional Laws the country who first host a supposed Asylum skker or refugee has an obligation to take care of the person,which Saudi Arbia did.According to Interantional Laws--when a persons entered a country illegally --the personsshould be deproted to the last destination he or she started their trips beofre landing in the destination.In El mAteri case it Saudi Arabia.Therefore,Pp donot have to send El mAteri back to Tunisia according to International but back to the country he depaYCHELLES namely Saudi Arabia.Suadi Arabia should be the one concern about wether El mAteri should be send back or not, for that is where El mAteri and family first found refuge not Seychelles.
The question to PP is.Are you going to respect both National and Interantional laws by simply sending El Materi back to where he came from before reaching Seychelles?For this is the normal International procedures to do things.
Seychelles refues to buy those crooked arguments by PP which is meant to make us beleive El Materi do not have a HOME or there is not option in his case that we must illegally nurtured a criminal on our shores.
Nad one last question PP:What is the different in the case of El mAteri to Ben Ali that the latter and all the rest of their family could find refuge in Saudi Arabia and not EL mAteri?foR HEARING pp ,Mancham we have the feeling that it was not Ben Ali the dictator but El mAteri.Mancham even copmapred him to King Prempe.Macarios and others as if he is a state men.
El Materi whether he should be send back to Tunisia or not,has nothing to do with us but Saudis.EL mAteri if not possible to send back to Tunisa should send bacxk to Saudi Arbia.His whole family is there and he himslef is not wanted in Saudi Arabia.So what the bullshit arguments Pp want to sell us.
Illegality PP is a crime.Breaching our laws,protecting a criminal,selling him our Resident permit when there is not law yet on residency,allowing him after raping our immigrantion laws twicw arte crimes committed both by El mAteri and PP thugs.
No more rediculous explaination PP.There is one thing to do--abide by Seychelles laws ans constition.We do not want to hear anymore those shits like "We think,we bleive,this and that etc..There is one sinlge Pp shozuld ask thmeslves beofre anything namely DOES THE LAWS AUTHORIZE THAT:If the answer is no.There isnot need to try and explain,etc...
Seychells as any soveirgn country is based on Rule of law.Law only ashould be apply ,not PP fantasy,crooked pratices ..
Jeanne D'Arc
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You right Jeanne.El Materi first destination was Saudi Arabia,therefore Saudis should be concern of whether to send him back or not.In Seychelles' case the normal procedures is to send him back to the last destination prior to landing in Seychelles.
I have read those Interantional laws too.An example,let say Mugabe flees Zimbabwe through Kenya,then some times later he illegally present himself at Seychelles' port of entry,the normal procedure for our governemnt would be to send him back to Kenya where he come from. That is what PL did when El Materi first tired to enter our country illegally.He was deported to the country he deaprted from prior to entering Seychelles and that should have been again the procedures to follow by the government.So as you say the governemnt attempt to justify thier acts do not hold water.
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Send him back to Saudi Arabia, where he came from. He does not have to face trail there. In the meantime, he can file papers for a new trail in his country and stop pussy footing around Seychelles like the putz he is.
I understand he pays people to do his dirty work to hide his face. Even taxi drivers.
This is not a good sign.
Shut up you fools. Seychelles is run by us the UAE, look up and see where the power house is situated - on the highest point of your mountain sits the real State House. From up here we control and watch what is going on down there in the old colonial whore house. Remember beggars cannot be choosers.
seychelles foreign affairs is ridiculous and so is it's minister.
the seychelles can afford to have quatar fly to and from seychelles but for Minister adams to simply ask for a copy of the Quatar report as to why they granted political asylum to El matri Sakhr this is impossible.
such a move would have concluded their investigations; never the less as others have said the asylum laws states that the first country one appeals for political asylum if granted is to be dealt with and considered by the same place of asylum grant. In this case seychelles should deport el materi and nesrine with their kids right back to quatar. that is the law!
Jean-Paul adams is weak in intellectualism this is why he was mambo jumbled by lawyer vidot's appeal for sakhr el Materi and even went to consider what law states has already been done.
The only way we can grant stay to sakhr and his family with wife. Would be through sheer corruption and disrespect of the law. PL is commonly known for this.
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Well said.I will add also,that in case a country does not have Asylum policies and the Asylum seeker cannot be deported immediately back to his country,in the case of Seychelles for example,a TEMPORARY STAY can be accorded to the person unitl he or she find a country with Asylum laws that want to host him/her.Should the person havenot find a new country that wants to grant him or her Asylum,the normal procedure (according to Interanrtional laws)is that the person in question should be handed over to the UN INERNATIONAL ORGANISATION FOR REFUGEE(UNHCR).
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Bucal cavity is a small cavity ,and just imagine that Michel little ghostly brain is even smaller than the bucal cavity,thus his inability to think as a normal human being.
Pissy Seychellois are united on the issue,El Materi before entering Seychelles has been living in Saudi Arabia.The issue of El mAteri has nothing to do with Tunisia but Saudi Arabia the country he last reside beofre entering Seychelles illegally.
So the question Pissy is not if Seychelles govenremnt will send El Materi back to Tunisia or not,but when will PP abide will our laws and simply deport El Materi to Saudi Arabia.
Jeanne D'Arc
why can't some people live others alone. It is over, what is it that you don't understand? Why is it that you always have to find ways, back off!
Get the Freemasons to released their special forces unit to get him out of the country.
IMF Reaches Staff-Level Agreement with Tunisia on Two-Year US$1.75 Billion Stand-By Arrangement
Ms. Christine Lagarde, Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), issued the following statement on Tunisia today:
“I am pleased to announce that, in support of the government’s home-grown economic reform agenda, the Tunisian authorities and IMF staff have reached a staff-level agreement on a 24-month Stand-By Arrangement (SBA) in the amount of US$1.75 billion (equivalent to about SDR 1.14 billion, or 400 percent of Tunisia's quota in the IMF). This agreement will be subject to approval by the IMF’s Executive Board, which is expected to consider Tunisia's request next month.
“The SBA, once approved by the Executive Board, would support the authorities’ economic agenda aimed at preserving fiscal and external stability, fostering higher and more inclusive growth, and addressing critical vulnerabilities of the banking sector.
“The implementation of an appropriate policy mix will help preserve macroeconomic stability and, together with a better composition of public expenditures, will help restore fiscal space for priority capital and social spending. A prudent monetary policy will aim at containing inflation while safeguarding the stability of the banking sector. Greater exchange rate flexibility—coupled with structural reforms to improve the competitiveness of the economy—will contribute to improving Tunisia’s external position and rebuilding foreign reserve buffers.
“Furthermore, the SBA will support the implementation of the Tunisian authorities’ reform program to promote private investment, foster sustainable job-creation, reduce economic and social regional disparities, and strengthen social policies to protect the most vulnerable.
“These reforms are expected to help address many of Tunisia’s pressing economic and social challenges, and contribute to reducing risks that could arise from a worsening of the international economic environment or from protracted political uncertainty. These reforms deserve the support of the IMF and the international community through financial assistance, policy advice, and technical assistance.”
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Who are you refering to,El Materi?If so,Seychellois have a right to dicide who they think they want in their home.Their concern and anger is justify for no one in the world would ever allow a strange to enter his or her house without permission.
1.03pm
And the new Tunisia governemnt had already put in place independence bodies to ensure that the loans are used properly and under go CHECKS and BALANCES.Something PP has never done for if they would do it,they won't be able to rob,steal the people's money.
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Get the Freemasons special forces to get this Tunisian guy out of paradise.The Freemasons have got an elite commando unit at belome headquaters
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Why you refer people of UAE as Arab Camel-herders? We were once poor but we are rich now, he!he!he!
Seychelles people are better suited to take care of the Camel herds in the desert since they are so lazy, we have our Malls, Oil-wells and Gold to look after he!he!he!
Seychellois eyes are bulging when they see the gold souks in Dhubai, this is why we are buying your islands with fools gold.
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Pp communist thugs eyes are bulging not Seychellois.Seychellois never elected those communist thugs on power(Coup D'etat is not a free and fair elction) as Dictatorship is not democracy.
You calling Seychellois lazy.Maybe you think by doing so,it will gives PP an execuse to illegally import more foreigners to conlonize our land and make us third class citizen in our own country.There are thousands of Seychellois unemployed not because they are lazy but becuase PP thugs have been conducting a dsetructive policy of importation of thousands of cheap foreigner laborers to take Seychellois jobs.Seychellois want to work but not for peanuts or just for the shake of working.One goes to work with the prime interest, namely to get a slary that he or she can feed their kids,pay their bills and have a dissent life.Do not expect Seychellois whom salary had not rise for 3 decades while cost of living has triple to work for nothing.
Seychellois want to see the benefit of their labour.Slavery is long gone PP.
Morevoever,Arabs are rich not becuase they hard working people but becuase of oil dollars.That they imported millions of cheap labours into their lands as slave is not a sign that demontrate they hard working poeple either.
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Which disgraceful judge put that article in Nation about Kenya elections? Is it Twomey?
SFP does not need to pay someone to click.
Do not let this figure of views bother you.
It is not per month, but over a period of time.
Additionally, during the first week of the blog, we had over 2000 views.
After it went to 4000 per week, slowly.
Then it went to 5000 per week.
Now it seems to be at 7000-10,000 per week. But I am not counting just estimating.
Truth has a way of attracting people.
Thank you for your comments, it has allowed us the opportunity to clear the issue of the views, which Mr. Ramkalawan made clear to us at one point when it was about to hit 100,000 that is was views, not visits, whatever that means.
The credit for the success of the effort belongs to all freedom loving Seychellois who have put effort into the blog.
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Jeanne DArc ou pe derobe mon ser, kisa lostrali trop fre pou ou, tourn sesel. Let me tell you that many Seychellois are lazy! They want money but they think they are to good to take a job according to what they know. Grand fess ek pakon vive sa seselois de nos zur!
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Yes Seychelles people are lazy, but they are good copy-cats. They are importing foreigners to do manual work at their one and only tuna factory. They love to attend meetings and seminars to beg for grants and loans from us Arabs! Their arguments are always the same - Piracy - Tsunami - and now weather change. For Allah sake! there are other countries that have the worse case scenarios and poverty than the gold souks Seychelles. Those fat-arsed have more cars than they have roads on the island of Sun, Sand and Sex! The infidels are always insulting us Arabs instead of being thankful. We have to build more Mosques - all over the islands and make them bend their lazy bums all day with prayers to Allah!
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Judges in Kenya give a judgement in favour of the ruling party in power since independence and has appointed all of them, and judges in Seychelles tell us this shows how good they are because Kenyan judges used them as an excuse. The case shows the similarities between judiciary in Kenya and judiciary in Seychelles and we should not be proud of that. If Seychelles and Kenya have different constitutions and both courts come to the same decision, then one of them is wrong. McGregor and Twomy can do their propaganda. We say the judgements are corrupt if the judges are too close to parti Lepep, the judges take too many favours from parti Lepep and then give pro-government decisions. It makes no difference to our opinion if judges in Africa with similar backgrounds support them or use them as an excuse to give pro-government decisions. McGregor and Twomy know what they need to do to redeem themselves as judges. The propaganda in Nation makes things worse for them and their integrity.
Now Somalien pirates also want to get Ayslum?After they been serving their 12 years, they will not what to go back home.Let change this sytem before they bring more terorists and before they blow thereself in our hotels.
Anyone who is fit to work and goes out to work to earn a living deserves respect, it does not matter what work they do.
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Anonymous 21.2013 at 7.55p.mHey let me tell you just one thing,i dont know who bring you on our shore.Seselwa never make deal with you arabs Michel kouyon has made deal with you kaka camel and begging every cent for help after stolen billion in our coffer that could have help Seselwa peoples instead licking ass of premitive peoples like you arabs.
Arab why you could help this 70.000 Syrians peoples your brother and sister murder by Assad they need money their to feed themself some are starving and frezzing in the cool weather mostly childrens.
There is an old proverb which state: apres le chien se Les Arabs.
They dont like to hear that phase.
Partou kot zot ale dimone pas oule Arabs.
Nar tas ou moke.
Like it or not, we Arabs will own the Seychelles islands - Land, stock and barrel! We will change the bad mentally of the people, will we change the way they live and pray!
The people are not only lazy but also stupid.
We Arabs are the ones who discovered Seashell We are just buying back what once belonged to us. We are not stealing, we do not steal, we do not want our hands chopped off. Inshallah, one day we will bring peace to all people of Seashell.
Well said brother! Our Chief has already placed our State House on top of the highest hill. Our armed forces have established their Naval Base. Mosques are going up everywhere and negotiation to buy Catholic Bishop Wienie with his Cathedral is on going! Soon lazy bums will all bow their heads to Allah many times a day!
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PP idiots want us to buy this rediculous idea that KNEYAN COURT use SEYCHELLES COURT ruling to solved dipute regardings VOTES COUNTS.
In other word,PP thugs are trying to tell us that Seychelles Governemnt can impose it laws on a sOVEREIGN cOUNTRY LIKE KENYA AS IF Kenya is part of Seychelles.
I will show you PPs asurdity: Kenyan court ruling,PP,is the ruling base on KNEYAN electoral laws not that of PP.If Kenyan judges made the rulings that the made ,PP,it is because it is so in Kenyan laws,otherwise it would have been illegal.(note PP,Kenyan do follow their laws though the tensions that exists during elections)--they donot raped laws like PP state terrorsists).
In a word,if Kenyan ruling was similar to PP ruling it does not means Kneyan use our rulings ,if they did so is becuase it iso in their laws,donkeys.
ON Arabs dicovered Seashell--Whether they discovered Seychelles or not,they never settled on it,nor procalimed it,nor inhabited it.THE USA was the first on the moon,though they never procliamed it is theirs.
If you beleive and prove PP corrked politics of dispossion of Seychellois from their ancestral land,thus,you must also accept the fact that Seychellois have thelegitmitate rights like any other noations to defence their alnds by all means from noe-colonilsim,arabalism,Foreigner toerrorists,and other crooks.
Jeanne D'Arc
Pp even tell us that the Illegal Ungandan judge controlling our judiciary even priseded over jidiacry courts in EUROPE--note no names was given,simply becuase it probably unrealitics to think that EUROEPAN countries with all those experts they have would recruite an AFRICAN judges without experience,without EUROEPAN judiciary traditions would be appointed to presided over EUROPEAN judiciray ruling in EUROPE.It could have been in the bush in Unganda but surely not in EUROPE.
I remind PP,Seychellois want to see their institutions from judiciray ,to police, Ambassadorsetc.. controlled by Seychellois,Seychelles is a sovereign country,donkeys thus it should be ruled,and its instituions controlled by Seychellois.
Jeanne D'Arc
Pissedoff has become a arab he has been convert to islam to bend down every now its a bettet chance to arabs to ride him from behind.
Pissedoff
Hates being Seychellois,like his master chief- of State- torerorist Michel the butcher loves arabs more than himself and his people.I am sad to seesome of my people in the 21st century comporting themselves as slaves and even support PP's colonial policies that are enslaving them.
It is know nthat a dog loves his master more than himself,i never thought it is also the case with Human beings.How long can PP and ilks live in this little cubicle denial world?
Jeanne D'Arc
The courts in Kenya have a long history of serving the ruling party.
Righ!,But that is a Kenyan problem and must be dealt by Kenyans.My problem is the fact that PP thugs wents us to beleive that KENYA ,a soviereign Nation with its own Laws has used our laws to concluded their decision.ABSUDITY at its best.PP wants to tell us that our laws could be apply in other countries as if those countries are not soveireign ,and donot have thweir own laws and can not do things themslves that PP thugs must intervene.
PP donkeys should stop bullshitting us with those kinds of absurdities,rather they should start conducting genuine Elcltroal refroms,freed our judiciaray form Foriegners and aloow it to be indepedent from Executive,Indepednet Assembly accouteable to the people not PP communsist party,Etc..etc..etc...
Those PP donkeys must be suffering from mental disorders.
Jeanne D'Arc
Oh My Goodness what more does Deenu want. He has brought his entire family from India to Seychelles by paying Ogilvie Berlouis who was at that time minister for immigration. He deposited into Ogilvie’s personal bank account Rs.25,000 for each member of his family and extended family that he brought into Seychelles. He even bought Ogilvie’s car for an exorbitant amount of money when the car wasn’t worth it just to please Ogilvie so he could flood the country with his malbar friends and family. It appears that this malbar is not satisfied; now he is sucking up to Michel to get more. SFP needs to investigate what other favours Deenu wants from the ruling party. This time must be for something big. Malbar usually bribe immigration to get every Tom Dick and Harry out of India but this time it appears he is looking for something bigger and Seychellois needs to know which of our laws is about to be broken by the judiciary to please Deenu.
What the heck is KD Pillay talking about? He is an illiterate indian who came to Seychelles with nothing like Ramadoss. He himself cannot write English, so someone is writing this bullshit about 'honorable Judges' for him to sign. Deenu fuck off, you have always been an arse-licker, when the time comes we shall take back all mis-appropriated wealth you and family have acquired on poor Seychellois.
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DEENU ,Mohammad Afif ,Rammadoss and many others these are the so called New Seychellois who were gifted our passport by PP to help the regime bullshit Seychellois.The sad thing about all that is ,while most countries in the world are fighting against illegal immigrants,protecting the sovieregnty etc.. those Pp donkeys illegally foreigners ,gifted them our passports even put them in high position to control our institutions.
Seychelles was lucky not to be a Nation made of tribes,KASS,etc... which avoid those kinds of ethnic conflicts we see in Nations with tirbes etc... PP thugs with their crooked polcies of imprtation of oforeigners to our shores,sell out of birthrights aND APTRIMONY are destroying tHE unity;stability,securtiy our country should had ,thus paving the path for future conflficts that should neverhave been something to happen in our society.
You have seen Dr FAURE promoting,acting as PRESIDENT.Everywhere you on Tv,Newpapers Pp is talking about Dr Faure.Probably he is preapring himself to take over from ther butcher sometime this year or next year.
But a reminder Dr FAURE,Seychellois will not tolerate nay fake election,any attempt to fake result in 2016,may end you madante in 24 hours.
We will not accept fake election,fake result to keep Pp terroristsd on power.This open-air prison you created will collapse .
Seychelles will be freed.
Jeanne D'Arc
Eoula Zandark bez ou manman...ou pa onte...si pa ti Deenu ou pa ti pou manz lantir bez ou min...
Deenu has been around before you were born pe fer ou bann gran pye manz lantir...
Garrie o, oli mon pizza?
Mon dir ou dan 30 minutes and if it's late you'll get it for free...
Deenu his shop is full of illlegal workers brouhgt from India every day you see a different faces in his shop same to Kanen on pRaslin at cote d'or.
Report him to immigration then you nincompoop and stop bloody moaning on here!
Ferfut Deenu, oli sa pizza?
Jeanne ma seour jeanne, Jeanne ma seour, your papa cherie like you call him was best friends with Deenu, wasn't he not, well until he left for Australia.Now you have the heart to come here and trashed papa cherie's best friend. Ki narive mon ser? rakont nu!
who cares about deenu or papa chery oli mon pizza?
I am right here in Cote D'or and i have no intrension of going into Exile but fight Pp state terrosists right here at home.I know PP has been trying all it can to detect me without success that is what making them getting crazy.But PP must not turn crazy i will visit should they fake,robb election personally ,acompanied with my young prffesional guys.
Did read what ilk K.Pillay said on today's nation namely "that our judiciray is proffesional and good"Nothing new and i^mprressive in what he said"but becuase all PP thugs see thing on the contrary of what things really are or should be.
Here is how a proffesiional and idenendent work.In an idepeendt judiciary does not imply judges can make based on personal preferences but rather lawful decisions.
Indepedent from politcal pressure of elected offifcials and legislatures guarentees the imaprtiality of judges.Judicial ruling should be imaprtial,based on the facts of a case,individual merits and legal arguments and relevant laws,without any restrictions or improper influence by interested parties.
Truth in the court system's imaprtiality--in its being seen as non-politcal branch of governemnt--is aprincipal source of its strength and legitimacy.
In dictatorship PP their is no indepent institutions.Judges are simply stooges to the dictatorial system as has been demonstrated by PP thugs for the last 3 decades.
Where are PP professional and indepednt judiciray in El Materi illegal Asylum?Why is LUCAS still at large?Why no investigation in the missing 2,5 billions?Why no opposition by judiciray of Pp illegal sell out,etc...?you know why Pissedoff LUCAS is still alrge ?It is because in dictatoship there is no such thing as indepednt instituions.
Jeanne D'Arc
PIZZA 18 months raped by a pedophile,14 days after the criminal till has not been charge,while PP thugs are telling us that PP judiciary is proffessional.Note that a young girl was raped by solider and all culprits were set free under the disguise that there was not enough proof.
How could one deal with a criminal such as pedophile--well PP,such criminal should be castrated or send life imprisonment.
Is that PP renaissance morale,Pissy?
Jeanne D'Arc
after the crime
Shadup your face!!! Pizza was delivered by mistake to Docklands...sa gro lakarlen inn bez tou!!!
Immigration officials are under duress of cash from Indian companies. When are you idiots in going to learn that your entire system is corrupted.
I am a Indian.
I buy your officials every day
You Seychellois are more stupid then pigs.
Deenu says he prefers to hire malbar than Seychellois because he says it hurts when he gets rob by Seychellois but somehow the pain is not as severe if it's done by a malbar.
Deenu thinks his comments will show his wisdom and intellect. He should contact Rolph Payet with a down payment for a doctorate, this can be arranged through Seychelles University. Or, fake PhD's are also available on the market. The trend these days is to add tittles to your name to highlight wealth and power.
This idiot malbar at 6:58 pm claims that he bribes Seychellois all the time. That same idiot left India because of lack of opportunities; corruption has destroyed his country. In India you can only survive by how much you can bribe not by your abilities and that leaves 90% of the population as destitute and they all want out. Yet when they leave India they want to destroy their adopted home the same way India has been destroyed with corruption. The question I have for this idiot malbar is after you are done destroying the world with corruption where else can you or your children and grand children go in order to have a decent life. I guess you don't have the ability to think that far since Indians are so short sighted. Instead of being proud for buying any official like they do in the country you ran away from please reflect on the future of your next generations.
Pissedoff i'm back i was oversea on a mission, you say report Deenu to immigration.Seychelles immigration has never work acording to its law seen years,those peoples under Pp never take action you can not see how they are selling our passport to foreigners at immigration and giving El Metri asylum.Do you think action will be any taken.The answer is a big no them corrupt, has any action taken to Lucas for his wrong doing till now?
Johnny
It's time to occupy the Seychelles Immigration office.
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Ler mon fes e grate UN ton malbar inn mort dan lenn..
Tall mon gate, oli mon pizza mon cherie. Pissedoff inn divorce mwan!
Ou fes e grate akose ou pas lave ou boyo pi kouyon.
Prend UN pe detol met tranpe ladan pou ou tir kaka sec kouyon.
Jackari baccarie.
Ha!ha!ha! the lazy bums and stupid Seychellois cannot agree how to deal with one malbar Deenu; this is why we Arab has to take over the country and change all religions to Islam! First to go is the ugly temple in Quincy Street, built by Deenu and associates, agree?
Hold the camels and release some pigs in this temple. Et voila. Problem solve.
Microbe
There is a mountain of problems created by Pp thugs thus we need to occupy our country and get those handful of traitors out of power.
Under PP dictatorship Seychelles has become a PRISON NATION.Seychellois can escape from PRISON NATION and get on to the path of democracy,justice,sustainable development,equality,etc...when they are able to establuished a democratic process in which all Seychellois are invovled.
The world is constantly changing and we must change with it.Henry David Thorseau correctly observed"We change by discarding old and tired ideas and by embracing new and energetic ideas."I think this change we already seeing it coming since SFP planted the seed of change two years ago.The latter actions has been able to force the thuggish regime and clics to have sleepeless nights and at the same time, mobilization and determination of SFP^s actions, continue to have increasing support coming from all corners of the country.
it is a sign of hope and Seychellois as their support towards SFP beleive in this hope and change.
Change will come regrads how hard PP thugs and foreign colinizators try to keep the status quo.
4.28Am
You dare calling Seychellois stupid,but the reality is that the average are better educated than most Arabs including Suadi King,the latter is beleived not to even know how to read.The onla few Seychellois who i can consider less itelligent than Arabs are Michel the Butcher,his dog Mitzy and a handfull of other PP idiots.
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc pa ou ki kwar seselwa y stupid, by saying ypou live in praslin kouyon kan ou dan Brisbane Australia pti bez ou manman!
We are waiting for you to show your nose on our shore! vini ou
I beleive in Seychellois ability and capacity thus the reasons why i am asking Pp thugs to replace all those foreigners illegally controlling our instituions by Seselwa rasin.
Howver ,we do have a few stupid Seychellois to the likes of Michel the butcher--he is stubborn,(pig-headed)and not open to new ideas and adivce,boastful about his own "correct ways"and keep to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.We all of us make mistakes but only foosl persist with thier mistakes.The butcher and ilks are good examples.
Jeanne D'Arc
Zann buz ou pti fez mon ser.
No one is listening, Seychelles belongs to the Arabs, and that's the way we like it. 2016 vini, vin vote bez ou manman.
Ti Johnny-Le-Gay you're back from a "mission" overseas?
Jeanne D'arxxx said that you were acting in gay porn movies to raise money to fund SFP...
Monn toultan dir se larzan fes ki keep SFP afloat...
Despicable even for the worse moron PL. But then again it does not shock anyone, it is the norm coming from you. MAKE NO MISTAKE SFP IS THE ONLY PARTY AT WORK, the only true party with Seychelles best interest at heart. If Seychelles Freedom Party cannot save Seychelles, NO ONE CAN BECAUSE THE REST ARE SITTING ON THEIR FAT ASS AND COUNTING STOLEN MONEY.
To this moron who think JD is a she, have your freakin head examine damn ass!!
Pissedoff information you want you willnot get it.Nou pou vini vote.if the electroral reform is put in place and fair to all party and no manupilation no stealing vote ban gran voler.
Johnny
Pissedoff
Manoo .F Laure and more in the Pp that have been able to hide to date.But how much longer?
An to your info Pissy.We have been hearing FAURE ,PP advirtsing the Kenyan election ,and telling us it was free anf fair.But you know & members of the E.commissions have noe been charged for frauds.In 6 Districts of 200 thousands inhabitants,the oppostion have now discovered and proven that vote in the ballots reach an amount to up of 5oo thousands twice as more than the inhabitants.Moreover,those same judges who called the election free and fair ,some are now saying that it was not that free and fair and asking the court to investigate.and many more contracdictions.
You understand Why Faure and PP wanted us to beleive the process in Kenya was okay,for FAURE was planing to use the same tactics in the 2016 election to keep himslef on power.And of course he is planing to get the help of his Kneyan firends who would be hand picked by drug addicted UHURU KENYATTA to come as sing his praises as He and his Ungandan judges did for UHURU.
The reason why UHURU was still confirmed in office is simply< becuase ODINGA has decided not to go to court:if he would have gone i can asure you UHURU would have never been President.
Jeanne D'Arc
i meant F. Larue
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Zandark is a man with saggy balls.
sa vye dizeff. welele.
Saggy Balls
Stop humiliating yourself!It is painful to watch.
PISSEDOFF
I have not finish with FAURE .After trying to tell us Seychellois law can be illegally applied in other country,there is no more thing that PP has put in place in order to help them FAKE ELCETION in 2106 namely the SCAM CENSUS of 2013.Thoough we have had ZERO rate of birth and ravage and dicimated by HIV our population growtjh according to PP is now 91 thousands and that in roughly 5 years.(note it is a historical growth for never in our history Seychellois popualtion has increase at such a pace in cebturies,Why?for the figures are phony,fictive,fabricated),We know that many foreigners were illegaly gifted our birthrights(fake Seychellois)but still the CENSUS figures 0f 2013 even when adding those fake seychellois the figure is much higher than it should really be.
SOme other parties would need to scrutinize,for if turn to be really fabricated it would show that PP is about to use as a mean to manipualted elction.And one more thing PISSY,Military personals should VOTE in the districts they live in ,Not in secretive ballots that provde no means of control,observing,etc....that has allow PP to manipulate election.
FInaaly,I have no intension of changing my sex,and do not have those prevesity as Pp thugs,F.Larue,MANOO,and other.I ma happy to be a woman for without us human race will have vanished.
Thanks you mum for giving you birth though she would ahve prefer to have a son with a full brain than one with pig-head.
Jeanne D'Arc
there in one more thing
Pissed off fake opposition priest millionaire, by the time you have to resort o saggy balls as a defense in political debate, do you not think that your time for pension has come?
You take your fat sat pension from PL of 36,000.00 per month every month for the rest of your life, yet, you full time, full effort of your kerosene propelled brain, try t obstruct those who work hard for change in Seychelles?
You seem to have a real problem sell out.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
Finally you admitted that you are indeed a woman jeanne ma seour. Komansava Brisbane? eski napa lekol Brisbane pu montre ou eple. Degaze ou en retar mon ser.
What makes you think that Jeanne D'arc leaves in Brisbane? Your arrogance, you deceitful manner getting the best of you! If you cannot handle alcohol don't drink! PIGHEAD!
Pissedoff mon cherie, Ton couto y fer ou salam.
By the way you will not find Wavel here he converted into Islam.
Mr Gill, Pissedoff is not a priest, he is well known as Tocouto Baccarie.
Tonton ou enbasader.
GALAN JEANNE D'ARC LA BA DAN GOLD COAST AUSTRALIA BANN BUSH KANGAROO.
Banla o, now we have established that Pissedoff is Tocouto Bacharie...all we have to do is find out who Tocouto Bacharie is to know Pissedoff's real identity!
Gill put up a Reward for this information and I will turn myself in...
More donation for the national disater relief fund!We hope that this money realy go to Seselwa who realy need it not on Pp account abroad.
1.19Pm
Since Pp thugs ,their foreign spies,gurkas have been searching for me,without success they are getting nervous,saying that i am in Australia helps them mentally from their uncapcity to find me.
I repeat PP,No need to search for me,i will be inviting myself on PP table in 2016 should stalinist FAURE fake election to put himself artificially.
UNtil then,i have those questions to Dr FAURE.Why are you faking Census figure Dr Faure?We you wnet in Kneya and praised PP judicciary ,while criminals should be behind bars are still raoming in our streets?Why young girls and babies being raped and no arrest of those PP rapers?
Jeanne D`'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc
vini mon ser, nwape esper ou.
Some people do care!
Protests continue in India over rape of child
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2013/04/201342114524381893.html
Zane D'arc mon ser, stop humiliating yourself with bad spelling and blowing your own trumpet, it is painful to read your shit!
from Saggy Balls!
It is indeed painful to watch you blowing your own trumpet and talking to yourself under different fake names created by your sick mind.
GET A LIFE BITCH
Saggy Balls 4ever&ever
Gill pe kaple bef. I vir Isaac tou avec son gozye!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gro pilon fes is met son kandidate, mon pe spere li!!!!!!!
Maarvellous Mario
Old story...tou dimounn Praslin i konnen...He is not allowed to go within 200 yards of a cow lest he wants to start producing coconut oil Coetivy
On coetivy after prawn farm by FAR now coconut oil.Produce food PP in order that our country can get nearer to food sustainability.
jeanne D'Arc
Si Totof i kontinyen bez bef he will end up there pe fer diluil koko...
Pissy
Coocnut oil is not lucrative,secondly a small country with a 90 percent of poor agricultural soil it would be difficult to really produce enough food to be sustainable.Other ways and means must be found.E..g The Zanzibar governemnt two /three years ago invited us to come an invest in Zanzibar ,this was an opportunity for us to produce food in order to be sustainable PP did not see the importance on this invitation.On our Outter islands i beleive should be developed in order to boost our tourism industry.more than anything.
Jeanne D'Arc
Totof coconut oil at least a anpes ou bez en latak leker due to high Cholesterol. Mwa kit sa ki bon pou consume sa ki pou touy nou?
Michel in 2008 told us he will be pumping millions of barrels of crude oil in 2012 and our country will be the richest among the rich.Since then not a single drop of oil.Maybe The butcher can start producing seceretly coocnut oil then he can attempt to make us beleive in curde oil he is pumping in our EEZ.Do not forget the Butcher holds a master degree in criminology.
Jeanne DÀrc
Stop dreaming Jeanne, oil is on Praslin AT gILLS plACE. 250 MIL LITRES PER DAY. si ou kwar mon lalanng pa get otor mon likou, demand TIKA ywa dir ou.
Jeanne D'Arc what do you know about mon grand manman? zip zilo noting u only know Gally Toll alias Jeanne. Tika menazer ou papa.
frere Zako menazer ou manman.
Faure thinks the most productive well is in Michel pea-head.Faure is awaiting the Butcher's demission SOON ,in oder to start the drilling.
"I have dream"says M.L king,i do too,a dream that sooner than latter Seychellois would be freed from the open-air prison created by Pp thugs.
Nothing happens unless first a dream.
This in not the case with the nightmares you having.Nightmamres are caused by some kind of stress ,worries etc...I am not worry and scare ,but at ease ,and see the wind of change blowing slowly on our land ,each day i feel much more at ease ,for i know change is coming and it inevitable.
Jeanne D'Arc
Stop using my name you fuck head.
Jeanne D'Arc
10.37am
pissedoff be yourself ,stop abusing others names.
Michel fake Doctorate and you abuse other names.What is next on PP criminal list to come?
Jeanne D'Arc
Good on you Jeanne D'Arc. I could not be possible more proud of you, staying on top of everything, even when they twist you. Gill was train by the best, and now you are to. Don't forget to breath and release. Let the dog bark, and stay on the subject.
many Seychellois were trainedc by the best ,in the best Unis and work hard for their degree.None of whom i know ever bought their degree like some of PPs Doctor degree.Seychellois are talented ,one have just to give them the opportunity to demonstrate their skills,talents etc...
Even PP communsists know that and also Know that those young,the new generation of Seychellois are not easy bought ,thus Pp do not truth them to play the stooges, for they might simply refuse.Therefore ,that explain why PP illegally import foreigners to colonize our institutions.It is not because there are no qualified Seychellois for different positions now illegally controlled by foreigners,No the naswer is that PP thugs are afraid of the brightness,intellectual ability,profeesionalism etc.... that are far beyond that of PP fake doctors.Thus ,A threat to Pp dictatorship.
Calling a Do,no problem,Because i think we say "beware of the dog" not beware of the donkey.Probably the former has certain influence on you when you say"beware of the dog".
Thus prefer to be a dog than the donkey that you are.
Jeanne D'Arc
calling me a dog
Jeanne D'Arc,there are million of people call Jeanne D'Arc on this planet. You are not the only one.If you want one less, LOOK FOR A HIGHEST TREE AND BRING WITH YOU A SHORT ROPE! Et voila.
May 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM BRAVO.
Because Jeanne D'Arc is already taken maybe you should call yourself Jeanne D'Arc II, unless you have no business being here and you just want to disrupt the thread and take the focus away from the main topic.
Eola gran Kouyon.
Sorry to tell you Kouyon...but YOU are.
You stated stay focus on the topic.
The topic is about Sakher El Materi and up to now there are 145 comments and only 8 are about this Sakhr Materi.
You have been disrupted and you don't even know.WHO IS THE REAL IDIOT NOW!
BRAVO.
Bravo,
El Materi,is illegal in our land and that regardless of what PP say or waht El Materi thinks.jUST LIKE kHALFIA,sIVA,AND THOSE FAKE Seychellois.The only law that id legitimate is that eritten in our constitution and no other.
Therefore ,El Materi should not even be staying one day on our shore and he shozld be deported to where he come from and his family is resding inQatar and Saudi Arabia also Arabs despots like Ben Ali.
I repeat,El Materi has nothing to do directly betwwen Tunisa and Seychelles but QATAR where El Materi livd two years long simply becuase he and family was given Asylum there.So,the question shoukld be should el Materi be sned back to where he last deaprted before illegally presenting himslef at the prot of entry?The answer is YES.And should QATAR deport him to Tunisia?That is not our problem,QATAR is not aprt of Seychelles and thus that is the Qatarian responsibility and a diplomatic sitauion that both Tunisa and Qatar alone must solve.
Jeanne D'Arc
is that written in our constitution and no others
Jeanne D'Arc it looks that Isaac is very friendly with El Materi and resemble two friendto that just met in a bar overnight.They also exchange email and maybe more.He refused having a snack but a drunk a Margarita without the salt. Don't you think its a bit weird? What advice will you give Isaac? Cut him loose or help him.
Mwan sa Cherie.
It looks like Isaac having all the fun, while Jeanne is packing the shelf. Fer lapen.
Ar wi zot...pov dyab!
Pov dyab n'est dit rien.
Ton Francais qui mes baise!
Bougla o si vous avez des problem avec mon Francais ils faut le take it out avec Google Translation ok? Parfois ons dirait que c'est Zeanne Darc qui fais le google translation...
Mois Je n'est parle pas Francaise.
Happy mother's day to spookett,stewiette,eoulaett,Phontomett,memoryett,payetta,hersey,mamaeva,beautecreole,soufledivanett,kakalafwarett,fankakaett,and not to forget tisat and all the AKSett.
zakoett
1.55Pm
No translation ,but mastering Moliere's language which is also a part of our heritage.Were you not taught French at School?
Jeanne D'Arc
Oui bien sure, c'est Madanm Leontine qui ma eduque d'aprene francais anba le pie Zanblon et quand il pluie ont vat anba la kaz, cete ranpli avev pis le chien qui pik partou sou le pie et rantre dan le patalon juska le partie prive.
Et toi ma CHER, qui te ansengne de parle francais!
O M G ,
1- simply Seychelle is part of Geneva convention and 1967 protocol and part of that UNHRC refugee treaty agreement ( meaning this countries shall provide asylum to refugees and have no right turn its back to the refugees and UN will assist in supporting them { with money }so its very unwise to refuse a refugee )
2- beside that the law about returning the refugee to the last destination he came from is ( dublin agreement ) which is an agreement between europe countries only seychelle has nothing to do with it att all , and it was put to action to prevent such a ridicule act of sending a refugee between countries and to prevent " asylum shopping " refugee not accepting asylum in country looking for better benefits
3- still Qatar and saudia are not parts of the geneva1951 convention nor part of 1967 protocol so they have no obligation to refuge anyone but seychelle is so the responsibility of providing asylum is 100% on seychelle only and because the countries he were at are not part of the trety so still it's like he came direct from tunisia to seychelle .
4- ofcours seychelle can just do like Greece and italy did with the Syrian refuge and abanden their humanitarian obligation and just break their words and sigetures and all the credibility they have and forget about that contract they had with all the 145 countries who agreed on this agreement like kids and immature babies but this should have political consequences on one hand , and on the other hand its a HUMANITARIAN ACT what if another coup d'tet to take place in your country ??!! a bloody one or your govenment turns the guns on people like whats happening in Syria ??!!! or a tsunami or volcano ??!!! should other countries just screw you and send you back where you come from ???!!! like the argument you are making jean ??!! do you have no shame that your country have not a single humanitarian refugee .
Now is the case of the son of Bin Ali the truth is HE IS NOT A REFUGEE according to the definition of refugee in any of the treties neither political nor humanitarian , he is just a corrupt fruit of a corrupt man , someone who broke the low in his country and stole from the kids of his own people , and he will be in trial fair and by justice and no one is obligated to provide asylum for him other than who have his own reasons so seychelle shouldn't shelter him in the first place cause they actully abstracted the justice from being served for a whole year . but eventually they did it . but still all their talk about being human and supporting others is just all talk .
thank you for reading and sorry for the length .
A.Alhattab
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