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Thursday, July 14, 2011
Division Is Finally Surfaced In The SNP Camp And Leader Remains In Hiding!!
32 comments:
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The two spin doctors without moral and integrity.They must be sacked by SNP leadership :they were elected by voters to represent them they are colluding with PP dictatorship.Sack those traitors now.
Will Gill tolerate indiscipline in his SFP ? What will Gill do if anyone (when he finally recruits someone to his party) refuses to obey the party line ?
Wavel pe ganny en pe son prop latizann. zot rapel ler i ti pous Elizabeth e la aprezen i fer parel avek Derjaque ek Carpen. Me solman zafer pa perey. Speaker inn met li dan son plas. Akoz Herminie pa ti fer sa avek kes Elizabeth., Eske i bezouen Appeal court pou dir li sa. Li osi bezuoen demisionen akoz i pa konn son louvraz
Two proportional MNAs refuse to obey party discipline. Wavel Ramkalawan write to the Speaker to have them removed. He followed the constitution. It is now up to the speaker and the MNA to challenge.
Why do you say that Wavel does not know how to do his job ? You probably do not understand how these things work.
Jane Carpin says she has not been paid for June and blames the party leader. It is about MONEY once again and that is why they go over to Parti Lepep straightaway.
Good riddance that the SNP is being split up. I hope that soon Wavel be the last man standing and the entire party will go down the drain. What a bunch of incompetent twats. I am not in favour of PL, but I certainly am not in favour of SNP(Soon No People).
By dissolving assembly 2 things are being achieved:
1) SNP is being flushed away and out
2) Attention is being taken from the Dhanjee case.
Why are you blaming everyone in SNP because Carpin and Derjacques want to do their own thing and they do not want to follow party line ? It is indiscipline. Establishing discipline means that the indisciplined will leave.
You should look at Parti Lepep government for incompetence. They get nothing right. It is only their money that is helping them.
Carpin is complaining about salaries. Derjacques is conniving with the speaker behind the party's back, to go against what the Executive has decided and to do what he wants to do.
My personal opinion-If someone refuses to obey the party line.i would assume in a party that is based on democractic principles-the person who has different opinions or views on an issue must express his disaccord at party level in order to find solution or common ground but not go it alone in public or in this case in the Assembly against their party principles.Furthermore if there are those who disagree with a startegy and think they cannot follow the party^s strategy i think the logical steps to take is quit and join a party that represent their will.In the case of Chapin it is clear that she has redicule SNP and RAM willness to sack her is appropriate for you cannot let one person bullshit the position of the majority in the party?Majority decision must always prevail.
It's true what you said Jeanne D'arc but the thing is, from the very beginning, SPPF & SNP - dunno about the new up & comings parties - but everyone agrees to something for the sake of agreeing, making things easier, not to cause any arguments, not to upset the boss to be best friend with the boss & of course to get PAID!!
Oh Dear oh dear, don't judge others by your own standard mate. It's just not in my nature to ass lick. It's most un-attractive as well. A few of my male work colleagues do.
Further more, you just cannot compare the two. We don't have to do all that to earn our cash. We just work hard, sometimes not even hard at all actually. When it's not busy, we chill. If there's a problem, we speak about it, to try & solve it and move on. YOU on the other hand, have the lives of the population in your hands and that's how you deal with them!!
So Ramkalawan is not the dictator that you have been accusing him of. He is dealing with people who do want to follow decisions of the Executive. SFP will be your personal party (like Rene and SPUP and Misel and Parti Lepep) and everybody will just do what you say.
It's not what christopher gill did when it comes to crossing the floor it is the why when crossing the floor that counts.
And as we all know what david pierre said, Davidson barra,alvin grandcourt, sheila, derreck savy and now jane carpin. Christopher Gill did his move clean whereas the snp says our mna's were paid!
What kind of a party that wants to tell people we can bring freedom only to turn around and fight each other and take the money to destroy all hopes of freedom.
SNP should shut down and let others deal in politics aret met larzan dan zot pos lo ledo lepep.
Reply to last comment, I did not join SPPF my friend. So you are wrong there. Crossing the floor is a parliamentary procedure when a member feels his party has lost all hope and sensibility or direction.
History has proven me 100% and Mancham has sold us all out, and DP could not field more then 1.4% in the last election.
If I was in DP today, SNP would not exist. Nor would any other opposition party, nor would PL exist as as a majority oppressor.
They would be what they are: en pti group communist!
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32 comments:
The two spin doctors without moral and integrity.They must be sacked by SNP leadership :they were elected by voters to represent them they are colluding with PP dictatorship.Sack those traitors now.
Jeanne DÂrc
Will Gill tolerate indiscipline in his SFP ? What will Gill do if anyone (when he finally recruits someone to his party) refuses to obey the party line ?
Wavel pe ganny en pe son prop latizann. zot rapel ler i ti pous Elizabeth e la aprezen i fer parel avek Derjaque ek Carpen. Me solman zafer pa perey. Speaker inn met li dan son plas. Akoz Herminie pa ti fer sa avek kes Elizabeth., Eske i bezouen Appeal court pou dir li sa. Li osi bezuoen demisionen akoz i pa konn son louvraz
Two proportional MNAs refuse to obey party discipline. Wavel Ramkalawan write to the Speaker to have them removed. He followed the constitution. It is now up to the speaker and the MNA to challenge.
Why do you say that Wavel does not know how to do his job ? You probably do not understand how these things work.
Jane Carpin says she has not been paid for June and blames the party leader. It is about MONEY once again and that is why they go over to Parti Lepep straightaway.
There will no division in SFA because there is no one there apart from Gill. Unless Gill divides himself, which is possible.
That should be SFP. But it does look like SFA and a party for the fish.
Let those who are financially motivated leave. The true believers will stay.
Good riddance that the SNP is being split up. I hope that soon Wavel be the last man standing and the entire party will go down the drain. What a bunch of incompetent twats. I am not in favour of PL, but I certainly am not in favour of SNP(Soon No People).
By dissolving assembly 2 things are being achieved:
1) SNP is being flushed away and out
2) Attention is being taken from the Dhanjee case.
DG
Why are you blaming everyone in SNP because Carpin and Derjacques want to do their own thing and they do not want to follow party line ? It is indiscipline. Establishing discipline means that the indisciplined will leave.
You should look at Parti Lepep government for incompetence. They get nothing right. It is only their money that is helping them.
Carpin is complaining about salaries. Derjacques is conniving with the speaker behind the party's back, to go against what the Executive has decided and to do what he wants to do.
My personal opinion-If someone refuses to obey the party line.i would assume in a party that is based on democractic principles-the person who has different opinions or views on an issue must express his disaccord at party level in order to find solution or common ground but not go it alone in public or in this case in the Assembly against their party principles.Furthermore if there are those who disagree with a startegy and think they cannot follow the party^s strategy i think the logical steps to take is quit and join a party that represent their will.In the case of Chapin it is clear that she has redicule SNP and RAM willness to sack her is appropriate for you cannot let one person bullshit the position of the majority in the party?Majority decision must always prevail.
Sesel pou Seselwa.
Jeanne D'Arc
That's the most sensible thing you have ever said on Gill's blogs.
Both Carpin and Derjacques participated in the discussion when the party's position on the national assembly motion was discussed and agreed.
It was right to discipline them and replace them by people prepared to carry out the party's decisions.
It's true what you said Jeanne D'arc but the thing is, from the very beginning, SPPF & SNP - dunno about the new up & comings parties - but everyone agrees to something for the sake of agreeing, making things easier, not to cause any arguments, not to upset the boss to be best friend with the boss & of course to get PAID!!
Is that not what you do at work plus a bit of arse-licking ?
Oh Dear oh dear, don't judge others by your own standard mate. It's just not in my nature to ass lick. It's most un-attractive as well. A few of my male work colleagues do.
Further more, you just cannot compare the two. We don't have to do all that to earn our cash. We just work hard, sometimes not even hard at all actually. When it's not busy, we chill. If there's a problem, we speak about it, to try & solve it and move on.
YOU on the other hand, have the lives of the population in your hands and that's how you deal with them!!
iiiiiiiiiiiiidiot!!
It's a real shame that you don't even understand. It is sad, but i'll try believe that you do understand but need to stick to what your superiors say.
My take is this-
Party executive are shaped and formed by the leadership,
if the leadership sets a solid example, the executive either follows or falls.
If the leadership is coherent and can lead the executive through the dessert it proves it is capable.
If it cannot, it shows it is not.
One fundamental problem I see in SNP is the fault of communicating the wrong signal to the members and executive by Mr. Ramkalawan.
The wrong message has been this: "Seychelles is a democracy".
I have read this a hundred times in his column and listened to it for years. It is not of course.
We are still in a struggle for Freedom, and Ramkalawan has failed to highlight that to his people and the people of Seychelles.
These MNA's thought they were parliamentarians. They are not. They are pawns in the bigger picture.
There is no parliament in Seychelles. It has been a rubber stamp for Communism and window dressing to keep PL in power.
Once you all figure this out, you will stop fighting each other and join forces with all that fight for FREEDOM.
Please stop the haggling between each other in SNP and us in SFP put our Freedom First not your pocket!
When you do this, we will see the backs of the Communist and the 40 foot containers being packed for Madagascar.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
So Ramkalawan is not the dictator that you have been accusing him of. He is dealing with people who do want to follow decisions of the Executive. SFP will be your personal party (like Rene and SPUP and Misel and Parti Lepep) and everybody will just do what you say.
Chris i don't think people can read. Serious. Maybe they can pronouce but understanding, i doubt.
I never called Mr. Ramkalawan a dictator. Other people from his party did.
I suggest you read what I said again.
Frankly, I care little of what happens in SNP.
My focus is the opposition as a whole and the country.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
And you did not cross the floor, Gill.
It's not what christopher gill did when it comes to crossing the floor it is the why when crossing the floor that counts.
And as we all know what david pierre said, Davidson barra,alvin grandcourt, sheila, derreck savy and now jane carpin. Christopher Gill did his move clean whereas the snp says our mna's were paid!
What kind of a party that wants to tell people we can bring freedom only to turn around and fight each other and take the money to destroy all hopes of freedom.
SNP should shut down and let others deal in politics aret met larzan dan zot pos lo ledo lepep.
Les Gill travay!!
DP were saying at the time Gill had been bought.
Gill was a millionaire at the time, worth mor ethen Mancham, so being bought is out of the question.
I was at Mahe Beach and on the way a friend told me PMU ti pou bez Gill, alors kile.
So he is 100% right to say that Mancham organized with Rene to beat him and kill him.
Gill is 100%. I am glad he is back. Without him the opposition would be dead by now.
Keep it up Gill many people support you and many more know the truth today. I trust gill anyday over jeanfronacois or snp.
Still no reason for him to cross the floor and join SPPF.
Reply to last comment, I did not join SPPF my friend. So you are wrong there. Crossing the floor is a parliamentary procedure when a member feels his party has lost all hope and sensibility or direction.
History has proven me 100% and Mancham has sold us all out, and DP could not field more then 1.4% in the last election.
If I was in DP today, SNP would not exist. Nor would any other opposition party, nor would PL exist as as a majority oppressor.
They would be what they are: en pti group communist!
It is time to finish the job.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
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