Communities use social media to take back the streets from mob as police get water cannons
- The Daily Telegraph
- August 11, 2011
- 2 comments
Communities take the streets of London back from rioters. Source: The Daily Telegraph
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9.46pm BRITISH Prime Minister David Cameron says a "fightback" is underway after four nights of rioting, adding that more robust policing had calmed the situation in London overnight.
Cameron said "nothing is off the table" in the new measures to take on the rioters, and he said security chiefs had decided to authorise the use of water cannon for the first time in mainland Britain, if they are required.
"We needed a fightback and a fightback is underway," Cameron told a news conference outside 10 Downing Street today after the second meeting of Britain's COBRA security committee in as many days.
"While they are not currently needed, we now have in place contingency plans for water cannon to be available at 24 hours' notice," Cameron said after the riots spread from London to several other northern and central English cities.
"We needed a fightback and a fightback is underway," Cameron told a news conference outside 10 Downing Street today after the second meeting of Britain's COBRA security committee in as many days.
"While they are not currently needed, we now have in place contingency plans for water cannon to be available at 24 hours' notice," Cameron said after the riots spread from London to several other northern and central English cities.
8.46pm Three men died after being hit by a car at riots in Birmingham, as police got powers to use water cannons after kids as young as nine looted stores.
The children wore tracksuits and innocently disregarded covering their faces as they ran through the shattered glass of supermarkets to fill their pockets with looted goods.
But today, the police were given the green light to use water cannons with 24 hours notice. Prime Minister David Cameron said that plans had been put in place to deal with the disorder.
The comments were seen as u-turn on what Home Secretary Theresa May said earlier this week when she ruled out the use of water cannons. The 'softly softly' approach has been shelved and police will finally be given the backing to come down hard on offenders.
'Contingency plans have been made for water cannons to be used at 24 hours notice,' Cameron said in a speech outside Downing Street this morning.
'Whatever resources the police need they will get. What ever tactics they fell they need they will have legal backing to do so.'
Mr Cameron said that the police would be checking offenders 'picture by picture' and they would not let 'phoney human rights' stand in the way of bringing rioters to justice.
He said that something was 'seriously wrong' with society 'when you see children as young as 12 or 13 looting and laughing'.
But today, the police were given the green light to use water cannons with 24 hours notice. Prime Minister David Cameron said that plans had been put in place to deal with the disorder.
The comments were seen as u-turn on what Home Secretary Theresa May said earlier this week when she ruled out the use of water cannons. The 'softly softly' approach has been shelved and police will finally be given the backing to come down hard on offenders.
'Contingency plans have been made for water cannons to be used at 24 hours notice,' Cameron said in a speech outside Downing Street this morning.
'Whatever resources the police need they will get. What ever tactics they fell they need they will have legal backing to do so.'
Mr Cameron said that the police would be checking offenders 'picture by picture' and they would not let 'phoney human rights' stand in the way of bringing rioters to justice.
He said that something was 'seriously wrong' with society 'when you see children as young as 12 or 13 looting and laughing'.
8.37pm As masked youths burned down a fashion store and clashed with police in Manchester, residents of Britain's third largest city blamed the government for failing to deal with social problems.
Hundreds of masked youths tore through the centre of the city in northwest England on Tuesday, looting and smashing shop windows as the worst riots in Britain for decades spread beyond London on a fourth day of violence.
Riot police were driven back by gangs of hundreds of youths who hid their faces behind scarves and ski masks, leaving gangs to smash into shoe shops, electronics stores and clothes shops.
Some of the rioters smashed the glass entrance of the Arndale shopping centre, the city's main shopping mall, opening the way for around 100 youths to pour into a shop before rushing out carrying clothing and shoes.
Gangs taunted the police, who used dogs and sent in plain-clothes officers to seize looters as they battled to regain control.
A young woman who gave her name as Nabzy told AFP: ``I've seen people smash shops, people running, riot police chasing people, people chased by police dogs.
``I've seen one guy left inside Tesco because he was looting inside and the police let their dogs inside and jumped on top of the guy and started biting him. It was really bad.''
8.37pm As masked youths burned down a fashion store and clashed with police in Manchester, residents of Britain's third largest city blamed the government for failing to deal with social problems.
Hundreds of masked youths tore through the centre of the city in northwest England on Tuesday, looting and smashing shop windows as the worst riots in Britain for decades spread beyond London on a fourth day of violence.
Riot police were driven back by gangs of hundreds of youths who hid their faces behind scarves and ski masks, leaving gangs to smash into shoe shops, electronics stores and clothes shops.
Some of the rioters smashed the glass entrance of the Arndale shopping centre, the city's main shopping mall, opening the way for around 100 youths to pour into a shop before rushing out carrying clothing and shoes.
Gangs taunted the police, who used dogs and sent in plain-clothes officers to seize looters as they battled to regain control.
A young woman who gave her name as Nabzy told AFP: ``I've seen people smash shops, people running, riot police chasing people, people chased by police dogs.
``I've seen one guy left inside Tesco because he was looting inside and the police let their dogs inside and jumped on top of the guy and started biting him. It was really bad.''
7.48pm Three men have died after being hit by a car at riots in Birmingham, with reports claiming they were trying to protect their community from looters.
Police said they had arrested a man and launched a murder inquiry after the incident which happened about 1am on Wednesday (1000 AEST) as Britain's second biggest city suffered from another night of riots.
Paramedics said they found about 80 people at the scene after the men were hit by the car.
Two of the men were pronounced dead at the scene and the third died later in hospital.
The BBC reported that the men who died had just come out of a mosque and were protecting their neighbourhood during the riots.
About 200 people from Birmingham's Asian community gathered outside the hospital where the victims were taken, the BBC reported, adding that riot police were also stationed nearby.
There was no immediate confirmation of those details from police.
Britain has been hit by four nights of violent rioting. London was quieter on Tuesday night but the unrest spread to other cities including Manchester in the northwest and Birmingham.
Paramedics said they found about 80 people at the scene after the men were hit by the car.
Two of the men were pronounced dead at the scene and the third died later in hospital.
The BBC reported that the men who died had just come out of a mosque and were protecting their neighbourhood during the riots.
About 200 people from Birmingham's Asian community gathered outside the hospital where the victims were taken, the BBC reported, adding that riot police were also stationed nearby.
There was no immediate confirmation of those details from police.
Britain has been hit by four nights of violent rioting. London was quieter on Tuesday night but the unrest spread to other cities including Manchester in the northwest and Birmingham.
1.25pm London's riot-devastated communities have taken to social media to reclaim their streets back from violent looters.
Rioters used Blackberry Messenger, Twitter and Facebook to help orchestrate the four days of destruction across the country, but social media platforms were also adopted to mobilise citizens to clean up and protect their homes and businesses.
As fires raged across London on Monday night, the Twitter page and website @riotcleanup was set up to coordinate mass clean-ups.
Followers were advised to arm themselves with brooms, bin bags, gloves and dustpans to take on the burning debris, broken glass and litter spread across the streets of London.
Within 24 hours it had more than 86,000 followers.
Former England cricketer Adam Hollioake, who now lives on the Gold Coast, showed his support for the group’s cleaning fight back against the senseless attacks.
“If they do it again. We do this again tomorrow. Solidarity for our communities. Show them they cannot win,” he said on Twitter yesterday.
In the traditional British style of carrying on, hundreds of people joined the clean up campaign yesterday, particularly in Clapham, south London, where rioters had trashed the high street and looted stores.
Concerned Brits also used social media to identify thugs behind the violence and looting.
The Tumblr account Catch A Looter was set up but yesterday taken down due to the number of people naming and shaming individuals caught in riot photographs.
It highlighted the fears that vigilante mobs could take revenge on rioters and escalate racial violence in what police have called the worst days of disorder in British history.
Police yesterday ordered groups of concerned locals across south and east London to return home after they set up stockades outside their businesses.
East London’s Bengali community in Whitechapel and Turkish business owners in Dalston became heroes of Mondays riots for scaring off rioters with bats and wooden stakes when police could not control the crowds.
Hundreds of people outside a Sikh temple in Southall, south London, stood shoulder to shoulder yesterday to defend their place of worship from young rioters.
In Enfield, north London, people ran through the streets chanting “England” in an attempt to scare away the predominantly black rioters.
Leader of Britain’s extremist right-wing group, the English Defence League, said yesterday that up to 1,000 members would take to the streets in areas of unrest to stop the riots.
The group recently made headlines for inspiring Norway’s mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik
EDL leader Stephen Lennon said members were already patrolling streets to deter rioters.
“We’re going to stop the riots, police obviously can’t handle it,” Lennon said.
156 comments:
Is that what SFP is about ? Promoting the English Defence League which is a far right racist organisation, taking advantage of the riots to spread their racist message ?
SFP's racist DNA is hard to hide.
Is drugs in our society affecting the communities and its people normal for you anonymous??
Or is it that you a dealer or an Escobar Yourself??
SFP did not make the people in england stand for themselves and their rights, but We are saying to each and every seychellois if the job cannot be done with these drug dealers those 25 Escobars made known in numbers by Minister Joel Morgan on State TV.
We should deal with them personally, chase them out of Communities not by force but by peaceful protest at their doorsteps or wherever they be!!
Do you like spending our tax payers money only to hear small fries go to jail while bigger fish roams the streets??
If you are not against drugs then you are against seychelles and the people of Seychelles!!
Sesel pou Seselwa!!
Jean Paul Isaac should grow up. A Seychellois in London posted the first message. SFP posted an article from a UK right wing press which appeared to praise the EDL. The British police spent hours last night battling EDL in Eltham, London. It was probably ignorance on the part of all of you at SFP. Be careful before you indulge in foreign politics and try to draw parallel with Seychelles politics. The English Defence League is not about defending England; it is a racist organisation that thinks England is for white people only.
Morgan is basically telling us to take to the streets and rise again the system.
In fact it is not a bad idea at all,fourty years of communist failure deserved to shaked up by the people otherwise we will end up as failed state.
Jeanne dÂrc
Ignoring the useless comments posted on SFP - the point is this:
Morgan said that he knows who the 25 Escobars are and he has information on them.
Hence, we in SFP simply ask that Morgan take concrete action to arrest detain, charge prosecute these 25 Escobars. 25 Escobars in one country is a huge amount. In Columbia, there was only One Escobar.
The comment by Isaac of citizens dealing with the issue is important, if Morgan does not.
There are many things that can be done: 1. photo and load their pictures, so Morgan can confirm or deny they are Escobars. 2. Bang pots at and around their residents until they promise to stop selling drugs. 3. Morgan as I said before, can simply go speak to them over and over again and again, until the give up the practice. 4. Each time he goes, he can bring another minister with him until all of State House attends the meetings.
We are a small micro state. There is no reason why we should not be able to stop the Escobars, unless of course, they are the same people tasked with stopping them.
That is the real problem.
Please, for the love of our country , try to comment in a responsible manner, to help the debate, instead of trying to kill it, which is what you appear to be trying to do.
For that, we all know what the game is.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Please clarify that the article comes from thetelegraph.com.au & dailytelegraph.com.au which are Australian newspapers. It may not have been on purpose, but it comes across as if the articles are from the telegraph newspaper in the UK.
Googled Lucy carne to check the article for myself. It may not matter to you much but it's part of transparency to be clear about the information your are feeding people. Why don't you just give us the link instead & we check for ourselves, instead of copying the whole article onto your blog?? It comes across as coming from the daily telegraph in the UK, that's all i'm saying, & it's not.
& before anyone starts with their bloody insults, i'm only asking!!!!!!
You've portrayed the article as if it's coming from Daily telegraph in London, which it isn't, it's from an Australian newspaper.
You may not have done so on purpose, & it may not matter to some but just to point out that it's a bit misleading. It makes a big diff with a newspaper from Australia reporting on something happening in London & the actual Telegraph in London reporting on the issue. You should make clear to us readers where you get your info from. Why not just give us the link next time to read for ourselves, instead of re-printing the article again on your blog, unless it's your article of course.
& before anyone starts with insults for a response, i'm just asking, which is what you do if you're unsure about things!!
for brigitte
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/communities-use-social-media-to-take-back-the-streets-from-mob/story-e6freuy9-1226112382882
Seychelles freedom party has not yet have any of its member going to jail or detained pending cases for false info or fabricating info.
But Bernard sulivan got arrested!!
Who said that don't you know sulivan is snp and he is a die hard snp!!
LOL
lyon anba lapo mouton, prezan met lo christopher gill ek bannla.
haahahahahahaha
Read these two comment and who had posted it on the article in uk below
COMMENTS ON THIS STORY
karen of melbourne Posted at 1:59 PM August 10, 2011
Good for those people involved to show a positive light to what is a dark day in England history. Very nice of them to do it, and there doing it for there communities and for friends and strangers. I dont know if I would be venturing out into the suburbs with the troubles thats going on.
Bells of Sydney Posted at 1:53 PM August 10, 2011
police sent them home?
why because they were doing your job?
If you cant protect them then they should have every right to defend themselves and their businesses. you have now let them get away with it for 4 days. I have no doubt there are terrorists watching this spectacle with great interest because if you cant control teenagers and youths how are you supposed to control terroism?
"Seychelles freedom party has not yet have any of its member going to jail or detained pending cases for false info or fabricating info."
I'm not saying that, why are getting so defensive, i'm not accusing you of fabricating false information, i'm not accusing you of anything, i'm just asking for some transparency. Should i not bother asking you guys anything? should i just swallow everything you say as "gods words" as some would say. Do you think i have SPPF mentality or something??
Do you accept though that it comes across as the Telegraph in UK??
If not it's all good, i'm just asking, if you could answer my question please. Do you accept how it comes across to us readers??
"Read these two comment and who had posted it on the article in uk below."
& then what??
http://www.independent.co.uk/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/
http://www.express.co.uk/home
here's a few links to anyone wanting to know about the youths rioting & looting in london & all across UK. If you hadn't checked it out already.
Let people read everything & judge for themselves, don't just feed them certain things that you wish to push on them, What's your name SPPF??
Thank you Brigitte but i have a better idea why don't they just watch BBC!
Is it not what you see is what you get!!
So did you check the link, well i have people in UK giving me first hand information as to what is ongoing and i have a daily telegraph reporter friend which i am liaising with.
Your daily telegraph from Australia.
Of course, they could watch the BBC and get only the BBC's view of things, like watching SBC or they can check all different reports from diff media outlet.....in London.
But you didn't ask them to do all that, you got your "first hand information" and turned it into "second hand" smaller information for your readers.
& you still didn't answer my question.
Politician indeed!!!!!!
Do you even know WHAT started the riot????
& Looting
Another Black man in London got shot down by Police. Investigation shows that he did not fire at the police like the met tried to say before. (He was apparently a well known drug dealer & they were following him on road) Police are suppose to shoot if their life is in imminent danger. There has been a few shootings of black men by police in London throughout the years i've been living here and the young black men (although the looting escalated to all types of races) are angry at the police because they feel brutalised by the met police 'stop & search' policy, because they stop & search the young black males only.
The family of the deceased wanted answers to what happened & when Police - last week - took long to come out & give an answer, that's when the violence started & escalated into riots & then turned into looting. Until last nite, the youths was looting/stealing. Now the gov & everyone are looking to push the blame of why!!!???? everywhere but to themselves.
The investigation into Mr Duggan's death is still going on.
It is disgusting to see SFP giving credibility to the English Defence League. What next ? SFP will say the Ku Klux Khan was defending communities in the US and Seychellois should take a lead from their book?
Gosh i am slow, it just clicked!!!
& proves my very point!!!!!!
pick out what bits they want people to believe is right without giving a full picture of what happened!!!!
SPPF mentality right derrrrrrrr!!!!
EDF from Eltham where Stephen Lawrence got stabbed to death by white youths just for being black.
EDF from Eltham where Stephen Lawrence got stabbed to death by white youths just for being black.
sorry didn't mean to submit twice
Seychellois have no reason of any sort to take a leaf from whatever organisation and less of those you mentioned.We are talking about all those foreigners who_came on to our shore on for a contractual purpose but was gifted and sold our passports by Pp,and that is illegal according to our rules of lW.so you could understand that freedom loving people can not on one hand defend democratic practices then turn back to legitimize Pp illegality.The two are opposite ends.
Jeanne D'Arc
& how does using articles from australian telegraph about racists groups in London "defending" their cities have anything to do with the seychelles gov selling our lands & passports to foreigners??????
confused.com
A grown man back home has more fear than a 15 year old in London.
Brigitte SFP main concern is the state and welfare of the people of Seychelles and if you are a Seychellois that includes you as well.
As for your concerns towards racism sfp like any other democratic state we do not tolerate racism, if the article was posted it is to show the people of Seychelles that when we have a usless government that cannot get the job done. Then we can do it ourselves in a peacful manner.
Just as the British was sent home and abid by the police orders in the article and the comments we need to wake up here and declare war on drugs and escobars.
maybe then one of the twenty five escobars will be apprehended .
Well,i have seen on TVS be it CNN, BCC and other European medias, what i see are Brits of all race,colour-,African Indain,european rioting ,are these what you called racist groups?
Jeanne D'Arc
"Minister Joel Morgan Said He Knows Twenty five (25) Escobars Yet Drugs Keep Flowing In Our Communities Double Time. Why Can't We Do Like The British And Do It Ourselves?? "Lets Go See These Escobars And Stop Wasting Our Tax Money On Useless Irish Methods!!"
Just to confirm there's no-one here (in UK) going after drug dealers, apart from the law/police. No citizen is taking upon themselves to fight drug dealers. The only fighting going right now or was going on was the looting of cities.
Very misleading!!!!!!!
I understand what you're saying Jean-Paul but you have to be clear about your points & i'm sure there are plenty of articles from other newspapers UK or worldwide that would have given a better view of what you were trying to say. The article you showed portrayed the rioters & looters as drug dealers & the people were fighting to keep them out.
Which was not the case.
"Well,i have seen on TVS be it CNN, BCC and other European medias, what i see are Brits of all race,colour-,African Indain,european rioting ,are these what you called racist groups?"
You've lost me mate.......long time ago, & you said you are "very educated".
& u start by saying "i have seen on TVs". Sounds like a child talking. Don't you do your own investigations, with it being 2011 & technology being soooooo high, you still rely on CNN & BBC & what's all the other medias!!??
Open your mind man, open your mind.
Yes i do ,i am in Uk ,but since you seem to be better informed than those known International medias and seem you gathered more infos then all of them combined,enligthen us.
jeanne D'Arc
Correction,i am not in Uk
Well Brigitte where are you living in UK as i am in london with my mom and we are staying in while all of this goes on!!
My brother is down in sweden and i bet you i will not be moving anywhere i also want to defend what i have built here and my work!!
What racism are you on about!! I am black and i was in the group this morning to take back the community.
Sod off you twat!!
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1454274_marchers-call-for-an-end-to-gang-violence
Here's one you could possibly use for example, although it's from the 1st of this month. But it's closer to the looting articles eh!!
Amazing that a Manchester media service which is not that most known in Uk can gather more Infos than even BCC and the Gaurdians,could it be that its director is part of the riot?
Jeanne D'Arc
"Yes i do ,i am in Uk ,but since you seem to be better informed than those known International medias and seem you gathered more infos then all of them combined,enligthen us."
I already have, you obviously are reading and understanding only what you want to understand.
"What racism are you on about!! I am black and i was in the group this morning to take back the community.
Sod off you twat!!"
????????????????
You live in Eltham do you??
Black man part of EDL??????
Amazing that a Manchester media service which is not that most known in Uk can gather more Infos than even BCC and the Gaurdians,could it be that its director is part of the riot?
the link from the manchester news had nothing to do with the riots, it was at the beginning of the month against gangs & drugs. My gosh you are hard f.ing work. It was to show Jeanpaul that there are other articles that he could have used rather than glorifying EDLs.
BTW you see that pic on that link with the women them protesting in the streets about what they felt is wrong in the community.
Can you & your crew ever do that? EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER???
Can YOu??
Can you??
Serious, confused.com!!!!
"Amazing that a Manchester media service which is not that most known in Uk can gather more Infos than even BCC and the Gaurdians,could it be that its director is part of the riot?"
It's very well known in Manchester. You see, over here, all different cities have their own newspaper, as well as the coutrywide newspapers, re guardian, independent etc.
& in the inner cities of london, they have their own newspaper as well.
Camden journal,
Newham recorder,
waltham forest news,
Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it's unknown love.
You stay there with your Nation of 3 pages praising SPPF everyday. Oh sorry you've Today as well, only since the new electoral BS they have not printed anything, or maybe thye have but have not updated their website.
But of course Seychelles Publication will start soon & change the way journalism works in the Seychelles.
So it is more local than Interantional that is why i ignored it existance and was watching worldwide Known Medias.
"Just because you do not know it odes not mean it is unknown Love"
Well,you asked me to check other Medias than BCC how would i do that on an a local media unknown to the world.But i grateful you gave us the address ,i will keep a tab on it.
"Seselwa Magazine" is coming donot get panic before we get started.I know Pp and its ilks are nervous biting the finger nails with fear.
Jeanne D'Arc
Getting back to the point of this article, CAN WE PUBLISH A LIST OF THESE ESCOBARS ONLINE:
1.....
2....
3.....
ETC....
Cool Cool
I suspect there are quite a lot of EDL supporters looting, although they are using the riots to spread their hate message in Eltham.
Is MSR affiliated with EDL?
I hope so because it's time we get these freaking dirty smelly Indians, slanty eyes Chinese and dirty nigger African out of our small Islands.
Thank you Chris for raising an issue that for so long has been ignored.
We should start clubbing them like they are doing in London.
I pledge my support to you Christopher Gill. You have balls!
Name and Address Withheld
"Name and Address Withheld"
For obvious reasons eh.
How dare you call us Niggers. How dare you even use the word??
Chris you think it's acceptable for someone to make such racist & dum comments on your blog?
Where do you think you come from?? Africa first & foremost, mixed with the "dirty smelly Indians, slanty eyes Chinese".
So un-educated it's embarassing.
That's what SFP portrays then????
& you want votes.
FCUK YOU & YOUR SHAMEFUL RACIST SELF, FUCK OFF OUT OF SEYCHELLES & MOVE TO YOUR EDF & KU KLAX KLAN CREW, ONLY THEY WON'T ACCEPT YOU CAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT WHITE ENOUGH. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOUR OWN HISTORY.
STUPID MOTHERFUCKER.
It is short-sighted of black UK businessmen to praise EDL for "taking back the community". A resurgent EDL will turn against all ethnic minorities, making no allowances for black capitalists. While we fight against the rioting criminals, we must make sure that we do not allow EDL to take advantage of the situation.
"I hope so because it's time we get these freaking dirty smelly Indians, slanty eyes Chinese and dirty nigger African out of our small Islands."
name withheld for obvious fucking reason!!!!!
Chris that's cool with you still??
Calling us Niggers?????
Jean Paul Isaac, that's cool with you & all, calling us NIGGERS.
Oh shit. my bad, you're not African are you???
IIIIIIIIDDDDDDDIOTS
Brigitte for so long we have been a silent minority in our country. Since the 80s we’ve had an influx of West Africans that were supposedly coming to teach in our schools most have had bastard charcoal children and left them behind. Our kreol Heritage has been tainted. Yes we accept the descendants of the slaves that became kreol, your family as well but we don’t want any new ones. We have enough “Malais” and “batar sinwan” as it is. Where do we draw the line? They should all leave on the same boat as the Somali pirates.
Now we have a voice to express our sorrows and by god I will express mine!!!
Name and address withheld
My Parents refuse to come back from Australia until Seychelles is cleaned up of these parasites. In the 60s they knew their places now they think that they own the Islands because SPUP made them doctors and accountants.
Name and address withheld
By calling people, NIGGERS.
NIGGERS i'll have you know is the most RACIST name to call ANY BLACK PERSON. AFRICAN or not. (although we all know that all black people are originally from africa) apart from you maybe.
YOU DUM FUCK. LIKE I SAID YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR FUCKING HISTORY MATE OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T BE TALKING SO MUCH SHIT.
& WHO ALLOWED THE SEYCHELLES TO BE TAKEN OVER, WHO VOTES, THE PEOPLE DO, DID YOU STRIKE ABOUT THEM COMING IN, DID YOU PROTEST ABOUT THEM COMING IN. NOOOOOOOO. YOU DID FUCK ALL, NOW YOU WANNA COME & USE THE WORD NIGGERS TO GET THEM OUT.
FUCK YOU!!!
"My Parents refuse to come back from Australia until Seychelles is cleaned up of these parasites. In the 60s they knew their places now they think that they own the Islands because SPUP made them doctors and accountants."
They should fucking stay there if they don't like black people. stick to their racist australian telegraph glorifying EDL. & you should bugger off & all cause seychelles is AFRICAN, from the AFRICAN CONTINENT. YOU CANNOT MOVE THE SEYCHELLES TO EUROPE OR AUSTRALASIA OR AMERICA.
RACIST FOOL.
Jean Paul Issac, have they got a gun to your head?????
Christopher Gill, Is it poss to get a response from you???
No???
POLITICIANS
LOL LOL
"It is short-sighted of black UK businessmen"
Black UK business man????? He wishes.
You can scream and swear at me as much as you like but if you were here you would understand how I feel.
Nothing has changed those blacks swears at me all the time anyway.
Those bloody indians and chinks are all bloody shifty and arrogant as well! Why don't you send for them in England your Island is big enough for them. You're taking all the somalis afterall. A few chinks and pakis won't cause a ripple in your waters.
Soon we will take back our land!
Name and address withheld
Chris, will you be printing Mr 'Name withheld' comments in the Seselwa Publication??
It's quite disapointing that i cannot get a reply from anyone, even Jean Darc regarding the RACIST comment on the blog.
Professional indeed.
come on people let's vote MSR/SFP/BNP/NEO NAZI/
"A few chinks and pakis won't cause a ripple in your waters."
& so the racist comments continues with not a word from EDITOR.
"You can scream and swear at me as much as you like but if you were here you would understand how I feel."
I would not be calling my own people NIGGERS. I wouldn't be calling anyone NIGGERS for that matter.
RACIST FOOL.
That is because they know I am right and that I'm telling the truth.
I am saying what they and a lot of Seychellois are feeling.
This is what SFP is about. We now have the freedom to vent our frustrations.
Name and address withheld
BY BEING A RACIST.
We are all racists even you!
You'll only get away with that on the tiny islands with very very very tiny minds. So you stay there. All the best with that.
We are all racists even you!
LOL LOL LOL
& Mr Editor, all the best.
"This is what SFP is about."
Ok i'll try again.
Is that the case??? SFP is about accepting racism????
The issue is the 25 Escobars, that Morgan said he knows about and does nothing about. Not what is happening in the UK.
I believe JP used the UK scenario as an example of the frustrating many Seychellois are feeling on the drug issue.
I personally have not been following the UK riots.
The point is if we have to bang pots in front of Escobars residence, to get Morgan to act we will.
If we have to photo them and place on the internet to get Morgan to react, we must.
But the problem of course, if the Escobars are in Morgan's camp that might back fire.
In Colombia, they had one Escobar. In Seychelles, we have 25, that is the issue.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
The issue is the 25 Escobars, that Morgan said he knows about and does nothing about. Not what is happening in the UK.
I believe JP used the UK scenario as an example of the frustrating many Seychellois are feeling on the drug issue.
I personally have not been following the UK riots.
The point is if we have to bang pots in front of Escobars residence, to get Morgan to act we will.
If we have to photo them and place on the internet to get Morgan to react, we must.
But the problem of course, if the Escobars are in Morgan's camp that might back fire.
In Colombia, they had one Escobar. In Seychelles, we have 25, that is the issue.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
The issue is the 25 Escobars, that Morgan said he knows about and does nothing about. Not what is happening in the UK.
I believe JP used the UK scenario as an example of the frustrating many Seychellois are feeling on the drug issue.
I personally have not been following the UK riots.
The point is if we have to bang pots in front of Escobars residence, to get Morgan to act we will.
If we have to photo them and place on the internet to get Morgan to react, we must.
But the problem of course, if the Escobars are in Morgan's camp that might back fire.
In Colombia, they had one Escobar. In Seychelles, we have 25, that is the issue.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
What about Jean Paul Adam ? Does no one care ?
Brigette,
The comment on black,blue,green ,nigger is without question written by a desperate Pp crony who want to put you on your nerve y and at the same time give the impression that it is from SFP ,MSR and that is probably why he/she has no name.
Jeanne D'Arc
So it's OK for your crew to racially abuse people on your blog. Like i said you'll get nowhere with such racism apart from the tiny minded country of ours called the seychelles.
In which case you should remove such comments. Easy for you to blame SPPF cause everyone's anonymous on here, you guys make sure of that!!!!!!
Or you could have at least made a comment back to him to ensure us that this is not your policy.
But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
So what is one left to believe??
That's right Chris, avoid the question, like the good politician you are.
"What about Jean Paul Adam ? Does no one care ?"
bloody hell, what's wrong with you lot. I was asking for Jean-Paul Isaac's response. Jean-Paul Issac i said. Read the full sentence mate!!
Jean-Paul Adam is not the only Jean-paul you know.
we have never used race as an issue beucase we are not racists,and that is somehow natural to seychellois -we are a nation made of all races(like the rainbow) and pretty proud about it.
There are some desperandos out there,who have long benefit from the communist regime that would use racism as their hobby-horse in order to blame others, for they have failed the country and are now fighitng for survival,they would use all kinds of tools,words,tactics in an attempt to discredit SFP and it leadership,but we down here in Seychelles we are used to that and maybe you not, thus my piece of advice,ignore those cowards without names(thingummy-jigs)they no longer have anything to offer to this country, thus the need to fake,hide,insult,use racist terminologies and so forth to distract the real issues.
Jeanne DÂrc
Ok, i'll try.
Let no man pull you low enough to hate him.
Martin Luther King Jr.
If the hat don't fit do not wear it! Right Brigitte??
Well SFP does not tolerate racism but it tolerates the freedom of speech and the freedom of expression.
When we step back and read our blogs we see how much educated and uneducated person feel and are reacting in the society for example the term Nigger that was used.
We know it comes from an snp individual only in the esprit of making people see us as racial parties that wants to do away with a class or race!!
In truth we have outlived doctor ferrari and Guy Sinon we will outlive a simple jean francois and sister and even a James Michel which his brain cells are at melting point with debts.
This is Seychelles and not england but any oppinion is most welcome, such as mine is why is snp creating malice on our blog when we all know drugs issue is a major problem here for everbody even the opposition political parties??
Could it be that they intend to legalize the use of heroin if they ever come into power??
What about Jean Francois why did he chose corgat estate and relate to drug users and seen at the court house trying to set some free??
JFF why??
Yea i know, This is Seychelles not UK.
In response to “Name and Address withheld”
First a foremost these post should have been deleted from this blog!
Why?
Because they are blatantly racist!
Why were they written?
Because Christopher Gill and Jean Paul Isaac after obtaining their license for their paper wants to take advantage of this blog to shock readers and at the same time send their message as to their true ideology!
Readers will read and be shocked!
Then move on to the next post eagerly looking for a response.
No one other than Brigitte protested as is the common mentality of Seychellois in relation to racism.
The other readers and participants of this blog with the exception of a few of us that are anti-Gill & Co. and who are therefore considered the anti Christs, are all those that considers themselves “gran blanc” and Pp haters because Pp took away their colonial mentality towards our Kreol people hence they went into self exile because they couldn’t live with the fact that Seychelles now has black academics with profession and education that was once reserved only for whites!
Chris’ Movement for Seychellois Rasin says it all and he makes no bones about it! The connotation in the name suggests racism. That is the same for every country in the world. Every nationalist movement or political party is founded on racism against their immigrants and minorities.
Unfortunately because the Seychellois people as a whole are too laid back about these thing therefore it is open for Christopher Gill to exploit it knowing that what is posted today will be overlooked and tomorrow forgotten by the majority and we’ll move on but at the same time the context will be lodged in our minds hence brainwashing and manipulation.
Christopher Gill has the power to delete these posts and not hide behind his free expression baloney but he chooses not to because he wants everyone to read them. I won’t be surprised if he wrote them himself. He has relatives in Australia and that is the general mentality of Australian Seychellois!
Next I will give a brief background of Christopher Gill's Man Friday. The black racist from Mont Fleuri.
Wow, you do surprise me :)
I know we disagree on many things, mainly SPPF mentality, but i agree with what you're saying, that's why we as a people need to start changing our mentality for the better. Be more open minded & see what's going on around us & around the world. Forget political BS, the power is in our hands if we want to make sure the current government changes things for the better. We need to stop waisting our time & energy in trying to put a new party in power. Whatever party takes over, they will do the same. Fill their & their people's pockets.
Power to the people man.
Like Damian said "to win de election, dem trick me, den they don't do nutting at all"
The current government as in the past has always been listening to the people hence the dialogues our president holds on district levels.
Is it so wrong that we house our people even if this is done through gifts and donations and loans from rich nations? All our schools are equipted with the latest IT systems for our young scholars. Is there anything wrong with that? Most of our youngster excel in one sport or another. They participate in social events that enriches their character and attitudes yes like everywhere else some falls on the wayside but that is no reason to capitalize on it and try to dismantle what is working!
PISSEDOF
This is a prank for the sole purpose of confusing.After reading the first few paragraphs,well it is totally moronic.You won't get far with it.If you a racist tell us.That call libel Pissedoff.
Jeanne D'Arc
& then you put your rose tinted glasses back on.
Oh well it was worth a try eh!! :)
I will defend my beliefs and I will respect others belief even if I disagree with them and likewise I expect other to respect my beliefs even if they disgree.
What I will not respect is racism on the level that we see on this site!
Jeanne D'arc: As to libel - is that why all the faces has been blanked on those nude pictures on your lord and master's site after I put pressure on him to remove them? You want to talk libel? Why don't you deal with the Ferraris first?
By the way do you, Totof and ZanpolIzak want that brief background about him or is that libellous as well?
Speak or forever hold your piss!
Your president Pissedoff is a deaf.The thing that it is wrongin all that you say is that we have an astronomic debt accumulated by Pp and that Pp cannot pay back while it is still taking loans in millions from other coubtires.Loans Pissedoff are not gifted but debts which our people will need to pay back.Pp should learn first how to make money instead of just spending without control and checks.Beucase if Pp cannot make money all you are talking about in the future will be jeopardized.
Jeanne D'Arc
If your belief RACISM as it seems to be the4 case,just continue with it,but do not blame others for it.
Jeanne D'Arc
Unfortunately it is impossible to debate with the likes of you; you are all liars and dishonest with no decorum.
Gill a swadizan politican cannot even begin to understand what a politician is about! He is has no diplomacy at all!
This blog is purely for amusement after work if I'm not out fishing!
Brigitte I hope you get some lennet in England. Take some and go bury yourself in a hole. You are the most retarded contributor to this site. I have to admit that I feel ashame to say I am a seychellois when I read all the nonsense that you write.
Go to school and be educated. anything is possible in life especially when you are living in the west. If you cannot contribube something to debate on shuit your ass please.
Damn must have touched a nerver :)
Keep hating mate, keep hating :)
Hurts when u're hit with reality don't it??
I'm ashamed & embarrassed that we have RACIST from our own AFRICAN country. I cannot even refer any of my friends over here to this site because the level of intelligent is well, just embarrasing.
You on the other hand are ashamed to say you're Seychellois cause you wish you was born WHITE, in EUROPE.
There you go Brigitte. That is Zandork & Co. having a go at you for having freewill!
lol lol, do u think so???
Zanpolizak where are you?
Do you want to take on on that offer for a brief background of yourself?
How are your two uncles?
PISSEDOFF
Acting like a cameleon won't help you to hide ,even when you try to use other names and other style of posting different ski.We know you Pissedoff no need to fake.Why not help Pp get prepare to confront the real and genuine politcal party coming soon.
Jeanne D'Arc
Hide from who and what?
I give it to you the way it is. Fake profile is Christopher Gill and his cronies' style!
No Brigitte you did not touch a nerve. Don't kid yourself. You are not capable of that. I was just trying to spare you from further embarrassment. Reading your contribution to this blog shows that you are (1)a very insecure person (2) very lonely (3) unemployed with too much time on your hand (3)not married and no kids. A woman of your age who is unmarried and without kids is a very sorry human being. I pity you.
By the way I am not Christopher nor JeanneD'arc.
You know what? You could stop this fake profile business if you wanted to!!!
"A woman of your age who is unmarried and without kids is a very sorry human being. I pity you."
LOL LOL, what era are you living in??? it's 2011 & u've still got 1811 mentality. Makes sense now, i'll low u :)
"(1)a very insecure person (2) very lonely (3) unemployed with too much time on your hand (3)not married and no kids."
LOL LOL
damn you're funny.
"I was just trying to spare you from further embarrassment."
embarrassment from who??
From Mr Racist man who wishes he was white.
Joker
Just remain anonymous mate.
I bet you, my skin's lighter than yours, which is making you hate even more :)
(there's nothing wrong with light or dark skin btw)
There are animals at the zoo who needs to mate, go there Brigitte and help one out. You are a desperate woman
Why do you have to make all arguments about skin colour Brigitte? It shows how insecure you are about your appearance. God created you black; you should embrace it. It does not matter to me what colour anyone skin could be. I do not look at superficial things because I have the ability to look deeper than the skin.
Brigitte-
You have helo SFP post a record amount of comments on a post.
130.
Please contact our office, and give us your name and address, we will send you a prize and certificate.
Admin SFP blog.
Unlike pissed off alias a ferrari story i jean paul isaac i am ready to take on anybody even james alix michel in an open debate.
Priest millionaire is a baby case to debate with me in public and his assistance are pebbles ready to be droped.
you can talk about me by swearing threatning even burning property or killing me but you will never be a better politician that i be.
I was born in a multiparty era my brain is developed and not obscured by the one party state era. You are all coup detat projects am the future and so many others in sfp we take from christopher gill and give to the weaker minded like you in snp and pl just as robin hood did with his band of merry man and women.
we gave you boycott you boycott, pl we gave you reginald hoareau you started a renaissance de moral!
Would you like me to say more????? JFF
You are a kid trying to do a man's job. It is not that difficult to boycott an election, if you have not reached voting age yet.
A kid that can detect your bullshit from a mile away.
another is if you can boycott why do you do it partially for your assembly salary??
Another is why did you not think of the idea yourself but rather took it from the kid which you are saying is??
ZanpolIsak just give me the go ahead and I will paste your family background here!
Yours are the only black family who thinks they are white and rejects and hates other blacks!
Your family refuses to speak proper kreol. They only speak what we in Seychelles call "francois" meaning broken french!
Nespa?
PISSEDOFF FLYING HIS COLOURS!
Nespa?
ZanpolIzak; your of post August 13 12:20 pm.
YES! We would like you to say more! This is your chance to bring down SNP!
Tell me ti frento Who did you give Rezinal Wawo too? Isn't he the same as certain members of votre famille? Non! Correction! He is not the same as membres des votre famille he is bi they are not!
Don't try to take on JAM, he'll verbally give you a bloodied nose!
Take me on instead!!!!
As for the priest millionaire, although je le deteste I know for a fact that he will chew you up and spit out your pikan komsi ou enn ti pwason friy and for good measure ya bez ou en bon kalot dan ou pti lagel sal!
And who wants to kill you? Lekel ki pou gat en bom lo en konmen so to speak?
You fancy yourself a statesman do you?
Who said that SFP is a registered party? Banla o sa kouyon zis inn ganny laisens papier twalet pending insurance se tou!!!!
Are you Gill's secret weapon?
Are you the best he has got??? LOL!
Mwa toufe komdir goula!
Pissedoff Flying his colours.
feel welcome to paste anything you know on my family in the end as a politician we are all public figures as so as you admit!!
And another corection please think again when you say we speak french and are racist because last i checked we speak multiple languages and we hang around with every type of people that we meet i meant proper ones unlike the sell outs and coup detat participants.
In my family there has never had a gay individual as you are trying to implicate because for a fact isaac is one of the most populated persons in seychelles just look at la louise.
Pauline ferrari i know you would love to take me on but i am sorry i speak too many languages and as i have said i am a product of the multiparty era not one party state slave drivers like ferrari's.
Post whatever you can on my family while you can because the way i see it you old cronies are absolute and worn out. The future is SFP!!
Doner dibwa, pilon dealer drog voler lalang.
these are what you are bringing against me .
Please try to bring in murderer, oun pran larzan ou ti en informant ou ti rasis e touy lesklav dan lepase. ou konplis dan lanmor.
ounn vann nou. ou ganny gro saler, ou annna gro loto ou annan senkant fanm.
Now that would be more adequate to try and kill the politician that i am!!
But sorry my name is on no land deals or money taking not even at state house.
For someone who says he was born only yesterday, you seem to know what happened well before multi-party. Are you making these things up ?
Quote:"Now that would be more adequate to try and kill the politician that i am!!"
Zanpol o aret donn dimounn grenn ou! Ki politician? Zot de Gill zis zot de amater politician and the only way the two of you will ever see the inside of an assembly house will be with a day pass as guests! Dream on bann fantasists!
the amount of changes we have made by not being in the assembly is 100% more than what eleven snp seats has tried in the assembly.
Up till today JFF your corgat estate still has got houses with deplorable toilette facilities want me to take some pictures and post??
If i was giving people balls then you would not be using my ideas and Gills to keep being recognise as a politician. As for our state in politics i will and always will be more of a politician than you or any snp will ever be because mon de "lanme i prop" coming to thin of it i am the only politisyen ek christopher which truly one can call an opposition .
Your flaws in politic's is that you think that the past died with every old timers that past away such as when claude vidot died you think his crimes went with him right??
Well there are so many books and recordings from the one party state to show what happened recently james mancham has made a video of himself played today in iccs to display his life.
Another who is scared of the multiparty born youths. Your past is what you have told people that did not bother to verify the authentication of it.
But sorry in this day and age everything is about truth and accountability which you and all the one party state borns have not done yet.
Am surprise that at your level you wanted to have an open debate with me!! Lol
Zanpol konman sava kuk?
Fer salanm Leoni ek Zanklod.
Zan Pol I didn't say you spoke french and this is not about multi lingual. First of all you can't speak french. I said you spoke "francois" at home because your family did not want to speak kreol and they did not want to mix with black people like themselves. Now there is no big deal with mixing with whites but it becomes a problem when black people looks down to other blacks and thinks that "Le gens nwar" sont degoutant"! It is now clear why you would be part of a racist movement. Your family believed that "unfortunately" they were "noire" and that was no reason for them, to debasse themselves by frekante-ing dimoun "nwar"! You separated yourselves the "noire" from the "nwar"! (Only your family could tell the difference between "noire" and "nwar"!)
Come and tell me it's all "fabrike! and I will tell you more you black little racist prick!
There's much much much more to tell about les Izak obor simityer!
And gay is rampant in your family you two-faced sinful bible basher!
Now apologise to our elected president you little blue dick head!
Pissedoff flying his colours.
I am sure Jean Paul Isaac will make a fulsome apology once the president has been properly elected. The judges have packed their buckets and spades and gone on their hols. We have to wait for them to return to work, with sands dripping all over the place, for them to rule James Michel's election totally illegal, if they can find the guts to do so. No wonder they are not keen to rush back from their expensive foreign holidays to tackle the growing number of constitutional cases before them and put an end to this government's attempts to send the constitution up in flames.
Jean claude isaac passed away and lived a great life as for Leonie i do not know who you are talking about since there are so many isaac's in seychelles i can even bet if i were to stand in an election against jean francois or wavel i would win by a landslide. Lol
Another is this racism issue, well i am black and not noire. What is noire?? Is that the term doctor ferrari used when he chose to allow people like joe belmont to be in government with albert??
Well in seychelles freedom party we have no color bars nor at my home, i would not mind dating a ferrari but their past is to soiled with slave drowning and coup detat affiliations.
This might be a sin if i did so because i condone lies to the seychellois people.
For mr. President my apology remains unaccounted for because when one speaks the truth there is no need to ask forgiveness, that would be an act of judas. I do understand this is a custom in the greens alley but in sfp we are mature and very honest so honest that there is a document binding the snp sins with PL that will be disclosed with or without unity of all oppositions. Truth sets anybody free.
Oh sorry correction Documents not one!!
You WERE born yesterday !
Thank you for recognizing it was yesterday and not before your Daddy was slave driving and the resistant slaves thrown overboard for the sharks to feast.
No wonder you did not say anything positive about the shark attack on the french guy, maybe its one of your daddy's pet and its hungry as there is no more slaves to drown!!
Remember the one party state mentality is you and it is hard to see through it as for your mentality this also is inscribed in your Ferrari DNA the slave driver mentality and kill it if it does not do your bidding!!
You accept then.
Accept that the Ferrari DNA of slave driving will not leave you!!
Yes i accept!!
Pissedoff
You showing us your real face,YOU'RE A RACIST by excellent.We understand now why you been long trying to accuse others of being racists becuase you the real one,but wanted to hide you own racistic appetite by provoking and blaming others.If you cannot debate,and have nothing to say,just shut up!
Jeanne D'Arc
Reply to ZanpolIzak: "well i am black and not noire. What is noire??"
You tell me! You said you were multi lingual didn't you?
When you do not know what it is the best thing to do is not to use the word.Or Michel who on the opening on the IOC made a reidculous speech in French may be he can help you with that.
Jeanne D'Arc
As long as you accept you were born yesterday.
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