Further to the ongoing analysis of Seychelles political predicament, it is important at this juncture of nation building that we assess our political realities in the context of the promise of multi-party democracy and commitment made by France Albert Rene, in November 1991, wherein he announced to the People of Seychelles, that Seychelles will depart from a one party state and move to a pluralistic system in 1992.
After Eighteen (18)) years of multi party system in place, and numerous Commonwealth recommendations being ignored, the Seychelles opposition has called for a BOYCOTT of the National Assembly Elections. Only the newly formed PDM is participating in the elections and it is alleged by the remaining opposition that this party has been put in place to field a non credible opposition.
If the PDM does not garner 10% of the vote or if it does not win any seat in the National Assembly elections, the PL will retain full control of the National Assembly, and Seychelles will be in a one party state "Dejure" ( in fact, actual ).
At this time, the main opposition made up of the Seychelles Freedom Party (SFP) , led by Christopher Gill, the New Democratic Party (NDP) led by Ralph Volcere, the Seychelles National Party (SNP) , led by Father Wavel Ramkalawan and a number of independent politicians such as Phillippe Boulle and Viral Dhanjee, who have been fighting the one party tendencies of the ruling party in courts, have all equally, in a unified voice called for a BOYCOTT of the upcoming elections.
The rational behind the Boycott is that there exist many one party state laws, as much as Twenty (20) that keep Seychelles under a "Defacto" ( in practice, but not formalized) status of being a one party state, while enjoying the window dressing of a democracy. If the ruling party had implemented the Commonwealth recommendations, to effect a evolutionary transition to full multi party democracy over the last Eighteen (18) years, there would be no valid justification for a BOYCOTT. But this has not been done. Instead, the SPPF PL have simply not pushed the democracy card in Good Faith across the table. If anyone has an obligation to do this, is is the SPPF and their new name PL party.
The examples are daunting on us. The Public Orders Act, is a one party state law that permits Police to arrest any Three (3) persons that gather together in public. This prevents the exercise of the Right to Assemble. The Newspaper Act prevents effective Free Expression of Free Speech without penal consequences. The Radio and TV laws and SLA Act, post prohibitive license fees to broadcast. The Finance laws of the Election Commission has no restrictions on campaign financing and any one, even a non citizen can finance elections and influence the outcome. The Commonwealth has noted that finances play a key role in determining the outcome of elections. There are many more examples, like the right to vote by Seychellois residing overseas, detainees on remand, and the right to vote freely un aided or not to vote by choice by bed ridden patients in state institutions.
Once Seychelles is back in a "Dejure" one party state, government will have to come up with a serious plan to get it out from such dubious status. This will essentially require a round table discussion by all parties of laws needed to be passed and constitutional amendments or even the closing of the 3rd Republic and ushering in of the 4th Republic .
Seychelles needs a quantum leap forward in democratic rights and respect of individual rights to make further progress as a micro island state in such a difficult prolonged global environment wherein we face such challenges as international piracy on the high seas, the ongoing world economic recession which will last more then Ten (10) years, and in some instances even national economic depression and national bankruptcy in some of our traditional bread and butter markets for Fisheries and Tourism.
The impact of the internet on a one party state regime, cannot be under stated either. Recently we saw what Two (2) shark attacks did to our image as a destination, imagine what the one party state status will do to us now if the PL allows that to happen. Unfortunately, fielding a fake opposition does not prevent it from happening.
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
170 comments:
Barra Monnaie and Carpin look the part.
Jean Paul when I heard James Michel last night saying that 'Boycotting' election is not democracy, I had a good laugh. He seems toi for our history and as a President it is very dangerous for our country.
Let me remind him that predicesor, Albert Rene was the first one to boycott election not one but two. North Mahe and La Digue. What a shame just a few years back and he forgot. Beware Seselwa one day he might forget and sell our country.
correction -- to forget our history
Pp must understand that our constitution does not make provision for one- party state .,Secondly, one- party state cannot produce any other system as autocratic which empowers the dictatorship of a minority.
Boycott this fake process and if it is not enough massive peaceful streets protest must be concider by the united opposition now that they are the majority.we cannot allow a gang of crooks to continue dictate its communist will on us.
Jeanne D'Arc
Boycott is normal in a democracy.
If PL say we cannot Boycott it just means that they are not respecting democratic norms.
We expect that from them
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Like Mr Christopher Gill, close relatives in Holland, Mr Daniel Bell - several young Seychellois after the coup d'etat and One party State choose to study "Constitutional Law other Legal, Judiciary studies - with the aspiration, hope of cotributing to a better Sechelles Seychlles and the world. The need to stress what they are taught, the books, history and by whom - it take years of experence and maturity to be of any use/half decent use.
We are those who have worked a great deal with Dr Henry Kissinger, beside others. When they say th world has other capabilites other than violance an war - President Ghadaffi would have long been removed/taken out of Office - our contribution to make input in such areas, head of state - contribute to bring them to work and see life other wise.
President FA Rene and JA MIchel was/is no exception. In fact we know and are much familiar with the working of these two individuals.
Given the state of the world, regional situation and political stand in Sechelles Seychelles - we ask those who can talk with President JA Michel. The need to look around in Mauritius, Reunion, Comor, Madagascar, Zanzibar and let the People have a half decent democracy - not dictate and preprogram them.
The Opposition are going to be very angry with what we re about to say. We have helped that President JA Michel SPPF/PL stay in Office. If he goes ahead with this election and is declared winner, By the same manner of Dr Henry Kissinger statement - and our Seychellois way of doing things, society - it will be time he is call to account.
After the election the majority of Seychellois, including SNP and NDP suporters would have already forgotten about the boycott and the parties involved. In other words, they will boycott you all and you'll be left with kote boyo.
I have been following those manoeuvres with great interest and listened to Pierre very carefully last night. I have also spoken to St Ange , friends who were and some still are SNP supporters and have formed an opinion about SNP. Wavel, Georges and Mancienne are in fact the ones who have comatose SNP and all that remains is to bury the body. Give Wavel credit where it is due. I was once his supporter but he has now disappointed a lot of us. He recreated the opposition from the ashes and was at a striking distance in changing Govt. However he was not very selective in who he took under his wing. People like Ferrari and Alain who were SPPF rejects did our defunct party no favours. Neither did Georges who is a habitual crook. If Wavel had remained true to his principles and not been intoxicated by money , power and lust he would have triumphed. In the end the bunch of them have not proved to be any better than the peole they want to eject from Govt. You lot are wasting your breath at running down Rene or Mancham who are the PAST. Both these men have had their time and still admired by many but they have little relevance today. Give Michel credit for out smarting the opposition. Volcere and Boulle are only of nuisance value and will never pose any real threat. In the last presidential they hardly got 1% each compared to the 41% of SNP. Wavel was in a dilemma about this coming election as to how he was to present himself. He had choices and politically made the worst choice for the party because he was thinking of his own self instead of the party and his supporters. He had already lost so many elections and he had said just after the last election that he would hand over leadership. He did not go ahead with his promise because he simply could not face losing the fat checks he gets and also not being the leader of opposition. When Pierre resigned out of desperation as Alain did Wavel event went as far to say that he had identified Pierre as the next SNP leader !!! Well his statement has become true, Pierre will replace him as leader of opposition but that was never Wavel's plan. He knew that SNP would lose further ground in the coming election and his own supporters would be disgruntled. Wavel is not a strategist and did not think his actions through. When he called for a boycott hoping Lepep would be scared in submission it back fired on him. Volcere and Boule also were petrified of further humiliation. Pierre has triumphed and beat the rest of the opposition at their own game, Christopher you made a big mistake in also not taking part. Are you also scared of being rejected as is Boule and Volcere.?
But why is Pierre not scared ? Why is 10% enough for Pierre but not for anyone else ? Is he a glutton for punishment or has he made a pact with Parti Lepep ?
Pierre's decision to damage the opposition chances of winning the presidential elections means that NO opposition supporter should support him.
Why should any opposition supporter support someone who wanted James Michel to win.
It is not just about winning 10% and becoming leader of the opposition (Volcere, Gill or Boulle could have done that, even if SNP had boycotted).
It is about fighting to remove Parti Lepep's unfair dominant advantage in politics because there are too many one-party state machinery still in existence 18 years after this country was supposed to have become a democracy.
Even if Pierre were to get 10% and replace SNP, he would be spending the next 18 years fighting the same fight. He is prepared to do that, because he wants to put his personal political ambition above the interests of the country.
While Parti Lepep wants Pierre to win enough votes to get into the national assembly and become a puppet opposition leader, they are not treating him as a serious threat to their power. Parti Lepep is more afraid of the boycott and the opposition outside the national assembly. They know that even if Pierre were to get into the national assembly, it would take him 18 years to get to where SNP is today. In the meantime, we will have a puppet opposition in the national assembly with Pierre and possibly Carpin.
The boycott will move us forward. David Pierre wants us to start all over again with him in charge. We will nip his political ambitions in the bud.
I concur with last comment, dissent with the one previous in regards to my own motives.
We don't need the post of leader of opposition when democracy is genuinely under threat in Seychelles.
We will not sell out the people for a little of fame in a communist assembly to please Michel and company.
Who is a lame duck president prematurely.
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Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
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On the close watch comment-
I do not agree with you that Ramkalawan, has done a bad job.
Nor do I agree with you that Boulle or Volcere are petrified of anything nor have they suffered any humiliation.
In the case of Ramkalawan, he took a party from nothing to up to 46 %. This is a great achievement. He needed 5% more support to win, which I always believed, could be done, if the opposition united, in spite of PL SPPF rigging efforts.
Ramkalawan did not do that and the results speak for themselves. This is an error in judgement and perhaps style, that has caused him to lose elections as a lead candidate. However, that does not diminish what good he has done for Seychelles.
On Volcere and Boulle, these men are Seychellois heros, not for their weak points (we all have weak points) , but for their strengths.
These men have faced down this regime in hard times and in good times. They have shown the power of pardon of others transgressions is a powerful tool by holding SNP and Mancham harmless for what they have done to them and the opposition in the spirit of division geared at destruction of a fellow soldier in arms against communism.
When we face Communism, we need to face it down together and united in effort, not divided. I have been sending this message for years now.
Perhaps now, the leaders will start to listen.
If they do, the best days are yet to come.
We are a young country and we will make mistakes. What is important is that we all learn from our mistakes, and not remain arrogant in spite of them, as we see Michel endorsing National Assembly candidates openly on SBC while he is a sitting executive branch president. A gross violation of the constitutional law principle of Separation of Powers.
Such violations show, only, that Michel does not have a clue what a democracy is in the context of an executive system of governance.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
On the close watch comment-
I do not agree with you that Ramkalawan, has done a bad job.
Nor do I agree with you that Boulle or Volcere are petrified of anything nor have they suffered any humiliation.
In the case of Ramkalawan, he took a party from nothing to up to 46 %. This is a great achievement. He needed 5% more support to win, which I always believed, could be done, if the opposition united, in spite of PL SPPF rigging efforts.
Ramkalawan did not do that and the results speak for themselves. This is an error in judgement and perhaps style, that has caused him to lose elections as a lead candidate. However, that does not diminish what good he has done for Seychelles.
On Volcere and Boulle, these men are Seychellois heros, not for their weak points (we all have weak points) , but for their strengths.
These men have faced down this regime in hard times and in good times. They have shown the power of pardon of others transgressions is a powerful tool by holding SNP and Mancham harmless for what they have done to them and the opposition in the spirit of division geared at destruction of a fellow soldier in arms against communism.
When we face Communism, we need to face it down together and united in effort, not divided. I have been sending this message for years now.
Perhaps now, the leaders will start to listen.
If they do, the best days are yet to come.
We are a young country and we will make mistakes. What is important is that we all learn from our mistakes, and not remain arrogant in spite of them, as we see Michel endorsing National Assembly candidates openly on SBC while he is a sitting executive branch president. A gross violation of the constitutional law principle of Separation of Powers.
Such violations show, only, that Michel does not have a clue what a democracy is in the context of an executive system of governance.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
I have told you on STAR that there is nothing wrong for Michel campaigning for PL in the national assembly elections. He is the party leader. He should not abuse state resources for that. The US president campaigns for his party in congressional elections. So does the French president.
Anyway, Michel is making a fool of himself with his democracy talk.
"Why should any opposition supporter support someone who wanted James Michel to win."
Well, why should anyone vote for a leader of a so-called opposition who publically said that he is glad he didn't win the election. Ramkalawan said that after losing the 2006 elections and to my opinion he does not deserve any support for having that attitude.
Good points Mr P, Pierre may have just proved to have what Ramkalawan does not: A strategy
Gerard Payet
TOGETHERNESS FOR ELECTORAL REFORMS
STAY AT HOME OR SPOIL YOUR BALLOT PAPER
The opposition forces in Seychelles are making one thing very clear: we are boycotting this election.
We are saying to everyone that this election is a farce and we must make a stand against it. On election day, everyone is asked to stay at home or go to the polling booth and spoil their vote. We must demonstrate to Parti Lepep and the international community that we have had enough of this system, and we are seeking real electoral reforms to advance democracy and secure a level political playing field in Seychelles. The system is rotten and we must therefore continue the fight for change to secure what is best for Seychelles.
Stay at home
The best thing to do is to stay at home on “election” day. By doing this, you will show that you are not taking part in this farce. Your vote will not be taken into account and everyone will get the message that the system is bad in the country.
80% voted in the last elections. It will be a victory for the boycott if fewer than that vote this time. This will demonstrate to Mr Michel and Parti Lepep that the Seychellois are not pawns in their chess game to be messed about with. The Seychellois are not slaves to be ordered around by those who behave like colonial masters.
Spoil your vote
If you feel you have to make the trek to the polling booth, we would like you to realize that this means you are not yet free in this country and that victimization by the state is still rife in Seychelles. This should make you reflect on the need for real change. But in the polling booth, you have just one thing to do. Spoil your vote. You can do this by voting for both candidates or putting a mark across the ballot paper. We do not advise that the ballot paper is left blank. It is better to spoil it properly with a mark on it. This will ensure that the ballot paper will not be counted.
What about Mt Buxton ?
Mt Buxton residents are asking us for guidance because of an independent candidate in that district. Many are saying they would like to vote for this candidate to give David Pierre a proper lesson. We understand this thinking and we would encourage you to do this. After all, he has treated Mt Buxton residents as fools. It is therefore quite correct if the district serves him a good lesson, so that he thinks twice before betraying anyone again. The opposition has no objection if opposition supporters give the independent candidate their support in this election.
Opposition remain solid
The opposition forces in Seychelles are united and standing together to boycott this election. David Pierre is not an opposition party, but an extension and an appendage of Parti Lepep. There is no opposition taking part in this election. That means a vote for David Pierre is a vote for Parti Lepep, and a vote against democracy and electoral reforms in Seychelles. The opposition are making sacrifices because we know that what we always seek is the best for our country. For how much longer will Seychellois continue to suffer and be oppressed just because one party wants to rule forever. Enough is enough.
I have asked Gerard Payet the question before and he has ducked it.
What is your political philosophy apart from a personal hatred for Wavel Ramkalawan ?
Will Gerard Payet be a political eunuch once Ramkalawan is no longer party leader ?
The story of the Mont Buxton Kok Maron, as told by Marie-Antoinette Rose
It is our great pleasure to bring to you the story of the Mont Buxton Kok Maron, as told in the National Assembly by Marie-Antoinette Rose during the replies to the State of the Nation Address 2011. The leading man in the story is David Pierre, now turned hero by Marie-Antoinette Rose and whom Parti Lepep has put up as its leading collaborator in this election. For his part, Mr Kok Maron is protecting Parti Lepep and Danny Faure. It can be recalled that while the story was being told, David Pierre was insulting Rose. But today Kok Maron and Ti Roz are frolicking in the same pen.
“Mr Speaker, the residents of Mont Buxton want respect and dignity. They do not like being taken for retards and our message is clear. What the residents of Port Glaud have thrown on the scrapheap, Mont Buxton residents will not swallow. If there is a Kok Maron doing the rounds in our district, the women of Mont Buxton must be on their guard. He will not approach our homes. Not after 8pm. We will send him back to Port Glaud where he comes from. I repeat. What the residents of Port Glaud have thrown on the scrapheap, we in the city will not swallow. Someone has asked me to say in this assembly that when Onorab Pierre talks about moral values, give him a piece of advice. It is that tomorrow morning when he wakes up, to look carefully in the mirror and to avoid throwing stones when we live in glass houses.”
Life has funny turns. After all the insults, the man is now in their arms. That’s what we mean in Creole when we say “koson in manz son pider”. We would also like to say to the woman in that shop who calls others thieves to remember that she lives in a glass house.
I love this “Kok Maron” story…it is a parallel to the Totof turncoat story.
Why did you print this Totof when you yourself have made a complete U-turn?
No, I will not go back to your “crossing the floor” days!
Not too long ago you were calling Ramkalawan a baboon (we can always go back to these post top remind you of it). Now who’s in bed with Ramkalawan. Napa kok pli red ki RAM aprezan. Ne nek nek nek ou les li RAM it to you in every which way he can...and you’re lovin’ it! Pa kouyon ek honeymoon!
Before He was a “Baboon” a “Moron” a “millionaire priest” to name but a few of the tags you branded him!
Currently now he is your daddy….until the next time…I’ll give it till November when he’ll revert back to being a baboon.
Leave Pierre alone you are no match to him you are just an amateur!
By the way I thought I was a "ladies man" but with great sadness I discovered that there is one on here ki pa kontan mwan. And I'm not talking about Zandark. sniff!
Eoula Gerard Pa pa pa ye ye ye ye yet...mwan nan en pyos lamans ver ki mon ti pe sey donn Wamka depi detwa lannen si mon anvoy kot ou Norway ou pa pou le envoy kot li pou mwan? Arpan vert inn bann tou comminikasyon from mwa!
From laba dan leo Maldive anba pye Bodanmye
Potter’s careless talk lets the cat out of the bag
Big-mouthed, foul-mouthed and rather careless Marie Louise Potter has let the cat out of the bag. Last Saturday, she begged people to go and vote and this, according to her, would be boycotting the opposition. So David Pierre is not their opposition in this election ?
This should demonstrate clearly to the Seychellois people that there is no opposition in this election which is between Parti Lepep ‘A’ and Parti Lepep ‘B’. David Pierre is simply a Mickey Mouse party fronting for Danny Faure. We can see very clearly.
Potter did say: Boycott L'opozisyon".
By implication, Pierre is not an opposition.
Mont Buxton candidate for PL had no PPB. I did not hear PL screaming over that.
Communists cannot hide their craft of lies anymore.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
David Pierre was SNP and a deputy secretary general with power to put forward changes.If wavel was not listening to him he could have spoken to his supporters and gethis message across n not wait just before presidential election for him to indirectly tell people to boycott Wavel by resigning.Pierre inn vann son nanm ek James Michel lekel sa Seselwa kouyon ki pou donn li en vot.PL inn donn li dimiel me vey ler tro bokou dimiel pou fer son vant fermal.Toilet dan building lasanble pa pu ase pu li.La li Carpin pe fer campaign kankan dan son districk. Si en dimoun I demann li ki I pu fer pou li I araze. En madam I demanm li en ed e deswit karpin I al rakont vwazen sa madame e kakan i leve.Zida ti pann me fer attansyon Jane ek Pierre I bwar pwazon.
Sa ki pe maltret Wavel ozordi i napa pider ,i pe montre ki menm si I dir I sipport loposition inn toultan en Lepep.Samenm sa bann kalite kinn fer nou perdi elction toultan. Zot loposition dan semen me Lepe dan bwat vote.Zonm pe de fwa mon gran papa I dir.Tro bokou kouyoner dan sa pei . Zot pe zis rod larzan apre zot kasyet deryer ledo wavele dir li i p rod larzan.Zot vann zot kart idantite. I annan ki gaynn peye R500 rupi e en bann ki gaynn 5,000000.00.Zot dir ki fimer drog ki siport loposition me zot pa dir bann kinn vole , vyole,dwa tax coronpi zot tou zot kasyet deryer lepep akoz ler u lepep ziz pa kondann ou.
rewind selector ;)
Anonymous:
I havn't ducked your question in any way. In fact I've replied to it and stated that I have no hatred towards Ramkalawan, but have the opinion that he has become a useless politician bringing no progress to either his party of the politics of Seychelles. After all, a leader of the opposition who says he's happy he didn't win an election should never have run as candidate in the first place.
Pissedoff:
You can send your komisyon yourself bro, our spades here(at least the quality ones) are of the brand Fiskars and are RED, your favourite colour and I can't exactly give that type to him could I? :-D
I could always send him a cheap one(made in China), but a few pokes in that later rouz would damage the spade and Wavel would have the perfect excuse to go sit on his butt for another 5 years and get paid for doing so by the taxpayers including those who still see him as the political mess(iah).
The guy has played an important role in the course of the history of our politics, but alas he's gone out of date and has been so for almost over half a decade now. With all respect though, but time's up for politics and in for bananas.
Gerard Payet
I have asked Gerard Payet the question before and he has ducked it.
What is your political philosophy apart from a personal hatred for Wavel Ramkalawan ?
Will Gerard Payet be a political eunuch once Ramkalawan is no longer party leader ?
How abawt axing piseddoff de same kwestion?
If Gerard Payet will duck the question, we will make our own conclusion.
As Ramkalawan has already said he is leaving the SNP leadership, we can assume that Gerard Payet has started to become a eunuch !
Ok rikor reye:
If my above replies are not clear enough for you or you capability to understand them, then I will leave you to make your own conclusions about my political philosophy and the state of my reproductive organs.
I will however ask you 2 questions:
1)How long are you prepared to wait for Ramkalawan to become president or for that matter wait for him to realize that he no longer has any business in politics apart from the financial aspects of being LOP?
2) Who do you see as a worthy replacement for Ramkalawan in SNP based on those who are left, those he hasn't kicked out or bullied out yet?
Gerard Payet
Moses took his people out of Egypt..but HE was not the one who crossed the Jordan"His fame was that he took his people out of Egypt!
Everyone has a role and will be remembered for the role they played in liberating our country from SPPF..dictatorship.. Corruption, the plague of drugs , teenage prostitution.. bad governance ..
Time will tell the story..of who and how each role player contributed . We are all watching.
I for one am still waiting for Moses and his follower who will atke us across the river.
At least we now know that Ramka is not Moses.
I am also old enough to remember that teenage protitution and underage sex was rife back before the coup d'etat and it was FA Rene with the concerns of Mrs Geva Rene that imposed the age of consent and create laws to protect youngsters.
Some of you are just so full of crap that you just don't know what you're talking about...and Rhonda don't get me started on the underaged Regina Mundi Girls o.k.
Pissedoff, speak for yourself !
The laws did not apply to Rene, though.
NYS.. that Great institution that was a vessel for so many young girls to be picked for the pleasure of FAR and his cronies..One day I hope those who suffered the abuse, violation..rape will be able to talk..
When I was at Regina Mundi..there were a few cases of teenage pregnancies..of course..and I know that a few of the girls in that situation did marry their partner or stayed faithful to them .that was not prostitution..
What is going on right now ..teenage girls lining up by the side of the road selling themselves ..that did not exist in my time..
FAR ,has a lot to answer for..yes the laws never applied to him..
Brave and principled willing to sacrifice for freedom and what he upholds to be good for his country:
SAUDI ACTIVIST DEFIANT IN FACE OF STATE INTIMIDATION
Waleed Abu al-Khair collected 8,000 signatures calling for reform
© Private
14 September 2011
A prominent Saudi Arabian human rights activist taken to court this weekend for calling for a constitutional monarchy told Amnesty International he will not bow to intimidation by the authorities.
Waleed Abu al-Khair, who has been studying in the UK but returned to his home country during Ramadan, was summoned to a court in Jeddah on Sunday. When he arrived at the courthouse, there was neither a judge nor a prosecutor present.
“The judge’s assistant brought out my file, and told me that I had insulted the judiciary and encouraged people in Saudi Arabia to go against the government. In the eyes of the Saudi judiciary, anyone who calls for a constitutional monarchy is guilty,” the 32 year-old said.
Detaining activists calling for reform is nothing new in Saudi Arabia, but activists have become increasingly vocal in recent months. Protesters who have taken to the streets have also been met with repression and detentions.
Since the beginning of the year, there have been a number of petitions calling for reforms. Waleed Abu al-Khair, who also organized a petition in February, believes these calls for change triggered a crackdown on dissent.
“Recently, the situation for rights activists here has definitely been getting worse,” he said.
Mubarak bin Said Bin Zu’air, a 45-year old lawyer, has been held without charge since March after taking part in a peaceful protest in Riyadh calling for the release of long-term political prisoners. Another activist, Mohammad al-Bajadi, co-founder of a Saudi human rights organization, was arrested the following day for attending a protest. He has been charged with “supporting the revolution in Bahrain” and with “forming an organization”. His trial began last month.
Amnesty International recently condemned a Saudi draft anti-terrorist law, which the organization believes could be used to stifle peaceful dissent. Waleed Abu Al-Khair and other activists in Saudi Arabia agree with this assessment:
“The authorities have seen what happened in other Arab countries. They don’t like what has happened in Egypt, Tunisia, Bahrain and Yemen, where human rights activists were leading the protests. They will stop anyone who tries to do anything in solidarity [with protesters in other Arab countries]. They know that the problem is coming from human rights activists, and they are looking carefully at us,” he said.
“The charges against Waleed Abu al-Khair appear to be politically motivated and are yet another example of the Saudi authorities’ complete intolerance of any actions or statements perceived to be critical of the authorities and their system of government,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa.
No date has been set for the next hearing but Waleed Abu al-Khair has no plans to leave the country until the case against him is over, however long it takes.
“I’ve accepted the fact that I may go to prison for this. Other activists, who campaigned for a constitutional monarchy in 2005 were jailed, one of them for nine years. They want to scare me, hoping I will stop speaking out. But I won’t stop speaking my mind. Our country needs reforms, it needs to change.
“We need freedom, like everybody else. We are sick of what is happening in Saudi Arabia and we don’t want to keep silent anymore. Times are changing and activists here are becoming very brave,” he said.
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Saudi Arabia: Further information: Human rights activist released (URGENT ACTION, 9 September 2011)
Shi'a cleric held in Saudi Arabia for 'inciting public opinion' (NEWS, 11 August 2011)
Demanding Change
Bez dimoun en lape, Geva Rene pa ti en famn devi li? Do you have to walk the streets to be a prostitute? You must be very young pissed off cos Geva was one in her days, she's done her share of sleeping around with politicians in the old days, spying on them to relay to the biggest traitor. In her case, it was sex in exchange for information.
As for the boycott, was it not Albert Rene who asked his supporters to boycott the Mont Fleuri elections not too long ago?
so voila, nou tour aprezan, bez boycott that ban bogus elections, zot pren dimoun pou kouyon sa parti kriminel SPUP/SPPF.
I agree with the blogger, years ago, all of you SPUP/SPPF supporters including you P.O., were singing the praises of Seychelles being a one party state, la kin arive ozordi? Once again, bez dimoun en lape. Zot beze hipokrit.
I hope Ms Pillay humiliates Pierre, even if she gets 1+ vote, I'll be happy.
And Christopher and MSR, job well done. I admire your determination and courage, but most of all I admire your openness to let all views be read.
Oli? napa sa kalite liberte kot People/Nation? Enkor en fwa, en bann malfesan.
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Intersting articles in Today's from page. It's such a pity only the front page is readable online. I'm glad to see that there are open views about our politics now.
Why don'y you buy the blooming paper!
I'm sure Geva wasn't any worse than your mum and gran.
This also proves what I've said about promiscuity then and now.
Would you have blamed SNP for it if they had come to power in 1991?
Bez al kasyen ou don!
And this crap about those school Girls marrying their partners that got them pregnant...to some maybe but to the rest sa bann matelot were long gone and screwing away to their dick's content in Thailand by the time these girls realized they were pregnant so I pity those poor unsuspecting guys that married them!
Promiscuity and prostitution has not changed; they've increased in proportion to the population increase. It doesn't make it right but it's a worldwide problem and not just Seychelles!
You mean the world is copying us !
Why I don't buy the blooming paper? Because the nearest sales location is about 18 hours travel from my current location you blooming nincompoop.
Deny deny deny, it'll go away eventually ;)
Hey! “Nincompoop” is my line for Totof’s followers you’re not allowed to call them that!
Seeing that you are light years away, out of the kindness of my heart I’ve pasted two links of newspapers for you – they’re free so indulge!
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http://people.partilepep.com/
And no you don’t have to thank me!
Pissedoff at your service!
I read those daily Pissedoff, but having an open mind I like to hear several opinions, hence my reference to Today which for obvious reasons I cannot access.
The problem with the alternative press in Seychelles is that it is unavailable and inaccessible to those outside Seychelles. The available for all press on the other hand is partial and selective and cannot be used as sole reference.
You see Pissedoff, I like to see things from different angles in different shades, not just through a selective red filter.
But back on the subject of safety on our islands: Do you feel that our local cruise boats(Sea Shell etc) can safely sail in our waters due to the pirate threat? And what about our ever increasing crime rate and increase in prostitution? Obviously somethign has triggered off of this. Do you have any idea what? And in that case, who is the direct cause of it?
Please spare us for the comparisons with Australia, UK etc. Koz Sesel tonton.
Pythagoras
The whole world has their mighty fleets of navy based in the gulf to protect their ships and yet the Somali pirates are still high-jacking them. Considering our limited resources we have not done too badly when you look at those in custody and the few incidents of rescues. On saying that we are not safe until we feed those parasites to the sharks!
As to prostitution; we are no better and no worse that any other country. No matter what laws are brought in it will be impossible to eradicate prostitution that is why most of the western nations are calling for it to be legalized!
We are all saddened and concern about teenage sex but please take a look at where you are in Europe before you try to make it look that this happens only in Seychelles.
And Payeye this is a serious matter! Can you imagine how parents of these youngsters feel seeing their children in this decadence?
Parti Lepep under SPUP and SPPF did not create prostitution, in fact they brought in laws to eradicate in but like the rest of the world who have tried the same system they were short-sighted.
Seychelles can go back to One Party State... Parti Lepep under SPUP and SPPF has made us all prostitute when they raped the country on June 5th, 1977.
Rosen
Ou troufes i ankor entak akoz ou ti pe anmas koko Guan le 5 Zen 1977
Repeat: Ou troufes i ankor entak akoz ou ti pe anmas koko Guam le 5 Zen 1977
FAR and his close cronies.. were and are still part of the moral decadence in our country..by their actions, their violating of young girls.. I repeat ..those from NYS that he abused .. Those working and responsible for taht institution know a lot about all that..THEY ARE GUILTY TOO!
to see 13 year old lining up the street to sell themselves ..that is beyond "prostitution" as established by society throughout teh centuries..That is ..parents lacking responsibilty, the country doing nothing about it That is Shameful!
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I'll agree that Parti Lepep did not invent prostitution. But I am very sure that if prostitution had not been invented by 1977, SPUP/SPPF/PL would have invented it by now.
Parti Lepep would have run out of Ministers by now, if the same standards were applied to them. There would be no point looking at David Pierre's party for new ministers. That lot cannot even read their speech for their PPBs.
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Pissedoff, you have a good point about the pirate problem and that we are doing well considering the limited resources. I support you there, but the conclusion is till such that ships liek Sea Shell are far from safe in our waters. Now, having said that, I see no way that the pirate problem is to be blamed on the PL in any way whatsoever, but I do blame them(SPUP, SPPF) for not manning up our coastguard in the years since 1977. I don't know if any of the previous government noticed, but we are surrounded by the Indian Ocean and even tough we did not have any piracy issue back then we most certainly did and still do have an issue with illegal fishing which would have been reduced if we had an effective coast guard which would also have helped against drug smuggling via sailships that drop off and pick up consignments at sea. Just look at the 3 who were taken by pirates and have gone all mute upon returning.
Prostitution? Well, I'd say the direct cause of it is the illegal drug trade that has been going on for donkeys years now, but little or nothing has been done by the ruling government till now. Mind you, many top drug lords have been protected and and we only need to look back a few years and the resignation of a certain police chief to see what kind of practice has been going on.
Yes we have always had prostitutes, mostly girls hanging out at Pirates Arms(no names to be mentioned here) in addition to all our pti piten who preyed on tourists and expats for everything from refrigerators to cars. I do not however recall ever eharing about Regina Mundi girls prostituting themselves as some idiot further up claimed, but we do see young girls selling themselves today and only recently one was killed a stone's throw away from the court house.
Now what has the governemnt done to prevent this? Increased patrols in Voctoria and the areas where the girls hang out? I recall in the days of Rene the police were out patrolling at night and vagabonds, drunks and hangarounds were frequently arrested and had to spend the night in the "kasso" if they could not legitimate what they were doing wandering about in teh middle of the night. Now why would it be so hard to start the practice again? That would surely reduce the amount would it not? Or would it simply be forced to be practiced inside private houses instead? Or wpould it simply result in the loss of a vote or three?
Yes, the PL have been short-sighted on may issues, a thing that happens to most politicians after gaining power. What is totally unforgiveable however is them covering it all up to save their own backsides.
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Pythagoras
Before 1977, there were just a few professional prostitutes providing a sexual service. They were not people crying for help or victims of government economic and social policies. Many grown men today must be eternally grateful for them back in those days when they were still testosterone-filled youths. Gro Lours had the respect of many until the day she died. It is different today. Poverty, drugs and alcohol are driving young girls into prostitution and blighting their lives and that of their relatives. As they pose no security or political threats to the PL government, they are allowed to carry on. Nothing is being done to help them.
They will get picked up at night if they wear "BOYCOTT THE ELECTION" knickers, under the guise of battling prostitution.
Pythagoras;
You recalled the days of Rene when patrols would pick vagabonds and prostitutes off the streets at night? It seems that you are you yearning for those days gone by when law abiding citizens could sleep well at night because our streets were safer?
Remember; you reap what you saw!
You wanted multi party democracy now like everybody else these prostitutes are exercising their same democratic rights like everybody else. Some people chose to go to nightclubs and hotels at night for drinks and dance, they chose to stand on street corners till late and unless caught soliciting then in the eyes of the law no crime has been committed! Likewise the drug dealers are innocent until proven guilty! Christopher Gill and Seychelles Weekly will back me up on this!
For years Seychelles Weekly with the collaboration of Christopher Gill has been championing the rights of these same criminals that they’re complaining about now! “Innocent until Proven Guilty!” “Prisoners abused in custody!” “Police brutality” lambasting the government for not respecting the rights of these paedophiles, drug dealers, prostitutes, rapists and burglars and murderers.
Today Gill is screaming down his S*A*R* (The *T* is phoney and duplicitous) about how this same government is not doing enough to fight these same crimes!
For fucks sake give us a break! Damned if we do and damned if we don’t! When will these morons on here realize that Christopher Gill is a conman, a liar and a cheat and a very, very, very bitter and dejected man who is going only one way and that is down and he is making sure that he drags his morons down with him!
For as long as lepep puts us in the driving seat we will continue to do the work that they have appointed us to do and Gill can go and get stuffed and shit in his bunbag!
If Parti Lepep cannot govern a democratic country, it should make way for those who can. We do not need a dictatorship to solve the problems that Parti Lepep itself has created.
Pissedoff
Nonesense.It seems the only tool you own is a hammer than everything ressemble as a nail.Keep hitting guy ,but watch your fingers.
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Pp cannot even government in the own dictatorshipit creates, you asking them to do it in a democracy,it is as if you asking a bull to produce milk.
Jeaanne DÂrc
Eoula Zandark tell me; who, not too long ago was running a serial on the plights of hardcore criminals and their alleged mistreatments by the police and the prison authorities?
Yet we never saw one article about the victims of these criminals!
Bez al fer fout don gran sempatizer kriminel!
Who was running racist attacks on blacks on here and who said that they were "exercising their democratic rights and their freedom of speech yet in democratic Europe one can go to jail for these same comments!
...and who was posting semi-nude photos of young girls on here as recently as a month ago and now you are accusing PL of doing nothing about underaged sex?
Bann crapo de boyo kat fes!
What about those high class prostitute who holds executive offices in the LP government? I wonder if they also have a drug problem.
Rosen
People on this blog pissedoff is Albert Rene himself. There cannot be anyone in his/her right mind that will go to the extent that pissedoff goes to to defend him, and not to mention has that much of time in hand. Has to be a retired person only like TiFrance.
Which is worse; seminude photos of very young girls and racist comments on a political party leaders website or a prostitute in an office?
Please by all means, everyone, say what you would like to say. Seselwa Unite! Sesel Pou Seselwa! Christopher Gill
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