After all these years Ramkalawan claimed we were in a democracy and he believes in the ballot box, Seychelles Freedom Party proved him wrong when we came out with a boycott of the presidential election while he went to the ballot box for Regime change only to end up not turning up for the Results. After his charades and incompetence as main leadership of Opposition he later followed in the unification of all opposition parties to Boycott parliamentary election despite some upsets Since the idea was Seychelles Freedom Party's.
The Boycott proved that indefinitely we are not in a democracy and the Parti lepep sealed it by taking us back into a one party state era while the Seychelles national party kept coming apart.
Seychelles National Party favourite Mr.Jean Francois Ferrari did not join the Vigil of October third were they each received a handsome payment from the state for state official abuses on their human rights. Instead of forwarding the incident and making steps to prevent another in future endeavours. Nor did Jean Francois attend the Boycott meeting at beau-vallon on sullivan property, because he is preparing for the bad weather after the IMF sets in!!
Allegations also has it that Wavel Ramkalawan is negotiating with PL in the back doors, to get back in the assembly and resume his salary band with perks only to steer the boat on the reefs; despite the efforts for Democratic Reforms by freedom loving seychellois!!
By negotiations with (LGB) Mary Lou, Ramka intends to orchestrate a few executive members on PL Pay Roll like (PDM) and lead the people to believe that he is still top opposition and he can negotiate with PL in their best interest.
By negotiations with (LGB) Mary Lou, Ramka intends to orchestrate a few executive members on PL Pay Roll like (PDM) and lead the people to believe that he is still top opposition and he can negotiate with PL in their best interest.
Unconfirmed reports also has it that JFF is so pissed at him for not resigning and he has asked that they cuff up rent or be on their way from his Arpent Vert Building.
JFF who has realized that the economical statue and coming reform will knock the wind out of their sails is going on reboot.
So who is thinking about the common men??
SFP is and will be there for every Seychellois!!
After the Parliamentary election more than 400 Seychellois did not go down to vote. So if we do the math and analysis for the reason why did those die hard supporters which did not go down to cast their votes, knowingly of PL's habit to victimize did not attend the beau-vallon meeting we would be puzzled. At least SNP would say so!!
The few reasons that could be is sickness, overseas trip, no transport means, busy with work or important function, but at least from the amount that stayed home 400 at beau-vallon is absurd right??
So for whom did those people stay home and boycotted the Parliamentary election? Most definitely not for Ramkalawan i guess!!
Maybe for Democracy, Freedom and most of all Regime change such as SFP practices and preaches everyday!!
Jaques Pool nowadays a die hard snp fanatic which either Cannot count or make sense for SNP Leadership Defence said SFP was distorting facts about the SNP support. Reality is reality as per picture of the rally.
The point is clear and straight forward as per weekly's front page were it says 17,888 abstentions, meaning those who stayed at home.
So one has to ask such question, "17,888 minus 400 = 17,488 Seychellois which all knew perfectly well that they will be victimized by PL by their move. So why did they not turn up at beau-vallon for Ramkalawans grande debute on why Boycott??
The key point here is around 400 people at beau-vallon even if when one would look at the picture and count for yourself, at least i gave some credit. Moreover i helped by saying maybe some were sick, or unavailable but lets get real out of 17,488 at least some thousands would have attended.
Note: that on the same day after Ramkalawan and the snp deliberately excluded the SFP from the "ansanm" flyer in an all opposition Boycott. Seychelles Freedom Party was under fire by our supporter to pull out of the unity of oppositions because of ego and attempts.
SFP released an explanatory communiques instead of retaliating, explaining its position which was, "We Boycott no matter what or who, we need democracy". The communiques was effortlessly distributed all over Mahe in the amount of over ten thousand copies.
SFP released an explanatory communiques instead of retaliating, explaining its position which was, "We Boycott no matter what or who, we need democracy". The communiques was effortlessly distributed all over Mahe in the amount of over ten thousand copies.
The Last "Ansanm" flyer exposed Ramkalawans failure to recognise the effectiveness of the Boycott in a few lines under column"Konmans Reform Elektoral", Poor Ramkalawan forgot that we demanded Democracy and that was a set of reforms that outweighs any seat in an assembly salary and life pension.
The job is not done for all freedom loving seychellois if SNP feels such SFP does not we will go on, for all freedom loving seychellois even if we have to do another boycott to be really heard right not through ramkalawans form!!
So why is it that Jaques Pool Feels threaten when i ask is it because Ralph and Boulle attended as well?? Well the meeting in the first place was a bad move when seeking Democratic norms implemented.
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Zot be les sa boug trankil! Kwa y en gros gren afle dan ou pti kanson??
Misel is the culprit mon frer! Stay focused e wa war ou delivrans kekfwa!
La prezan ou pou lager tit lekel ki ki boycott? Get a life bro! Free speech pou ou se asiz lo en komputer hein?? Tasyon y pet dan ou figir parey sa lafnet Navara!!
This is such a childish move by SFP. One thing I have discovered is that registering a political party does not necessarily mean an introduction of political wisdom, common sense and maturity. Right now we are not interested how you feel about Wavel. Our success against Lepep has not been won by Wavel, it has been won by a united and determined opposition. You may have played your role to whatever extent this may be and I congratulate you for that, but your erratic behaviour will not winning you any sympathy or support. You can put out 25,000 flyers or 100,000 flyers if you wish, but this does not give you 25,000 or 100,000 supporters. So what is your point.
The 17488 are SFP supporters. Now will you go ahead and hold a public meeting !
"Oh dear oh dear Mr Editor, is this how much you’re lowering yourself to? Deleting my posts, when I have not used any foul language at all, you chose to delete my post because as I had pointed out in the post, you just do not want the people to have all the information for them selves. You want to brainwash them just like SPPF…..SFP.
To be honest, it kind of gives me a boost you know. To know that it got under your skin that much that you had to delete it. And the reason it got under your skin is because you know it’s correct, because you did not have an answer!! ;)
I repeat, you do not care about the people. You are still refraining from printing your VERY SPECIAL INDEPENDENT Seselwa Publications (PTY) LTD. Your objective is to bring your ex-colonials friends back & take back the land which they ‘took’ in the first place, and push the people off the land. That’s where you are going with this ‘bonafide’ business.
The only way any other party can win in Seychelles - & any other ‘third world’ countries come to think of it – is if SPPF does decide to spread the ‘wealth’ of the country to the people of the country and stops the corruption which does start with the ‘establishment’ ie World Bank / IMF. If James Michel was to say no, I want to give back to the people the wealth of the country to build our country, that’s when they will intervene & allow people like yourself & SNP to come in & continue the corruption. You probably know that well, Mr Harvard Stanford Educated Politician.
Have a good day ;)"
And before you say it Mr Editor, yes i had put this on the blogg bellow....way bellow by the time got up but i will post it again on this one, because the second post on here is on the right track.
& we know.....of course you don't like that. ;)
& when you don't like something because they don't agree with you, you get rid of them...just like SPPF.
All Policians are corrupt, that's what you are put there to do, to corrupt everybody into thinking you have their best interest. Today in the Nation they're trying hard not to use the phrase "quantitative easing" but performance instead. In the Nation today:
"The IMF mission is here to do its fourth review under the Extended Fund Facility of the reform programme to assess how we have been performing.
“The mission is also here to measure the specific quantitative performance criteria set under the programme and to discuss the way forward with the government on the constraints we may face and how we see the future ahead of us and if there is a need to revise some of the targets we have set,” he said.
Now you check out what "quantitive easing" means read from the Nation how it's the IMF that set this "quantitive easing" for us.
Economy going deeper & deeper.
HOWEVER you choose to bring on 'petty' articles, if you can call them that, about SNP. Your priority should be with the people!!!!!! The people should know that there is much much more hardship to come!!!!
Guys, don't pop a piston over a little post. I reply with all my humble-ness as per Freedom Party policy.
The Boycott was for Democracy and Freedom.In this context there are electoral reforms that must be dealt with.
PL wants to deal with these reforms immediately.
International community is putting pressure on Seychelles that we have not seen since 1991 when they help end one party state.
What ANSANM is saying, the Boycott is for electoral reforms. It is more then that. This is the point.
If ANSANM has made that type of blunder, of course, since when we call you -you do not take our calls, we must BLOG you.
Then under SFP policy, what is BLOGGED can go into our newsletter for wide spread distribution.
We Boycotted for Democracy and for Freedom.
If Freedom Party has to do it again, because of under table deals are in play, we will push the BOYCOTT card again.
We all know all votes belong to the caster not to a party. So we are not fighting for who has what. Freedom Party is just clearing up the mess ANSANM made to keep us all focused on why we BOYCOTT: Democracy and Freedom.
Reforms can mean anything. Example IMF reform. Is ANSANM Boycotting to get IMF reform?
Until we get Democracy and Freedom, we will Boycott!!!!!!!
Bernard Georges even said that.Does Ramkalawan say the opposite?
Please put your piston back in engine, find common ground, before the whole engine blows up before you get out of gear No. 1 , it is at the top of No.2, if you do not know!
Bye Bye!
Long Live Freedom!
More like bye bye freedom.
What amuses me most is watching the war of primate on here - a new twist to the Planet of The Apes saga; Fat red Gorilla vs The Baboon!
Bez kanmarad mem banla and don't let that little chimp referee because he will be biased in favour of his high Gorilla!
I'm lovin'it!
Brigitte
It is the proof on the ground that makes SFp supporters beleive that we are at the moment the leading party.Why?The people followed the called by SFP to boycott.Though SNp participated in the boycott the fact that Ram's assembly in Sulivan's garde nwas a fiasco typifies that it was not becuase of Ram that the boycott was succeeful otherwise sulivan's garden would had been over crowded.The fact that 17 000 spoiled their ballots is becuase SFP asked them to do so,and i guess you noted that only SFP in its fyers mentioned and gave guidelines to the voters what od or how to proceed.
About publicm meeting this is a dicision that SFp leadership will decide and since its strategy to boycott was initiated by SFp leader and did work,i guess SFP leadership must follow its strategy than listen to hypothetic accusation from lead4rs that in eigtheen years could not amke a dent in the Pp and did not even have any effective strategies such as a boycott.
RAM must accept the fact that he no longer has the supporters he used to have a few years ago and that is a result of his failure to represent the people interests but his own benefits.
Jeanne D'Arc
Why was my post deleted?
Now that's pushing delusional thinking to its extreme!!! How can one take such a party seriously!!
Quantitative Easying mean is an financial macro economic measure.
It means printing money.
IMF is here to see if Seychelles government will print money, issue bonds, and devalue later.
They are here to see the money suppose to be collected to pay our debts is collected.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO our debts will be paid next year.
Shit is about to hit the fan because we have not made any money as a country this year.
Freedom Party Supporter
It was not deleted you did not send it.You know what,only dictators will do such things becuase they cannot accept different views and opinions.
You free to speak out even when you do not necessarily have something to say,you have the right still to say something.That is democracy and freedom of expression.
Jeanne D'Arc
Ram's support was clearly shown in May 2011 elections, but what is clear is that the Alliance of Ramkalawan, Volcere and Boulle pushed that figure up to nearly 49.5% of the electorate. Oh and I know this must choke you up, but that's a fact!!!
Correct, IMF will be advising them to PRINT more money & then cry 'inflation'. ;)
I think though they did play a role which was necessary, however if there were not active mobiliization on the ground(flyers,leaflets,going door to door)the results would have nto been that consequent.Past events in the last eightheen years show that.
jeanne D'Arc
"It was not deleted you did not send it.You know what,only dictators will do such things becuase they cannot accept different views and opinions.
You free to speak out even when you do not necessarily have something to say,you have the right still to say something.That is democracy and freedom of expression.
Jeanne D'Arc
October 7, 2011 4:12 PM"
And you say you are not corrupt.
I saw my post, i read my post a few times, i read "chris" post telling me to stop with my vile messages. I asked "chris" to show me the supposed vile messages, I quoted you as JD, Journalist & Business Entrepreneur of the year, soon to be nobel prize winner, it was all there before i went to bed & surprise surprise it's not now. Not even the one with "chris" accusing me of being "vile"....gone!!!
And you say you are not CORRUPT.
Please remain rational.
The world reads these posts.
But by all means say what you like. We love you for it.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Freedom Party Leader
The issue here is to ask what does SFP want? At one time you ask for a united oposition and at the same time you continuosly keep critising the united oposition?
If you are wise enough you would surely undestand that what we need in Seychelles today is dialogue between the real oposition and stop throwing stones at each other.
For the love of our homeland let us speak and fight for our country men and put aside our differences.
Martin Luther King Jr.quoted:I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. That is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant.
Let us keep our diferences aside and go forward.
SNP Pathetic and PL Journalists- please remain civil and remember, the world is watching as Seychelles deals with great, great, problems.
Please, remain civilized.
Dialogue is constructive I salute you all for your input.
We have to start somewhere, even if it is in the gutter.
By all means please try to come out of it.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Greed Greed Greed will always get in the way of that.
Results show if the opposition was united in an assembly election, PL would win only 7 direct seats.
This cannot be a result of a sole SNP effort.
There is something in the air, that has altered the Seychellois mental state.
Which means Pp must usethe same method as Mugabe print notes even of ten billions this will amke us feel rich ,then all Seychellois can call himself a million.Soon we will also run out of papers and inks to print money on like Mugabe is facing right now.
Printing money without an increase in productivity will fuel a hyperinfaltion.
The currency blackmarket will open again and will be supplied to dealers at the back door of banks.
Our solutions is not Imf.World Bank and other lenders but our very failed communist system.To solve our problems we must shut down PP and get them out of power as soon as possible.The faster the better.
Jeanne D'Arc
Yea you remember..the world is watching!! ;)
Kristofer bez bous ou boyo don! The world is watching?
Not your pathetic blogg surely otherwise you would be the most reviled and laughed at two-face son of a.... person as well as a global joke!
Aret bez pomp ou lekor kouyon!
Greed no longer a factor- we are all bankrupt and all live in a bankrupt country.
Politcs of vile will not change this status quo.
Try again.
Greed no longer a factor- we are all bankrupt and all live in a bankrupt country.
Politcs of vile will not change this status quo.
Try again.
Errrm JD, do you want to reply to this one???
"It was not deleted you did not send it.You know what,only dictators will do such things becuase they cannot accept different views and opinions.
You free to speak out even when you do not necessarily have something to say,you have the right still to say something.That is democracy and freedom of expression.
Jeanne D'Arc
October 7, 2011 4:12 PM"
And you say you are not corrupt.
I saw my post, i read my post a few times, i read "chris" post telling me to stop with my vile messages. I asked "chris" to show me the supposed vile messages, I quoted you as JD, Journalist & Business Entrepreneur of the year, soon to be nobel prize winner, it was all there before i went to bed & surprise surprise it's not now. Not even the one with "chris" accusing me of being "vile"....gone!!!
And you say you are not CORRUPT.
By JD, i mean Jean Darc.
'The world is watching'
Greed will always get in the way.
Greed will always get in the way.
Reading it a few times than does not avoid you pressing on delete.The wolrd is watching onPp especially now that itis a one party state.Loans from other donors countries will be much harder to gain for they will push for real reforms ,they won't be able this time to closed their eyes and accept the façade on democracy PP has been presented them with so far .
Jeanne D'Arc
Yes, I confirm , the world is watching.
Be polite and express smart ideas that will impress the world.
This will give SNP exclusive access to the ghost international community they speak about of course.
It will give PL a few more donors to pardon our debts, if you believe in Santa Claus.
Think about it , it is still early, and we have 2 months before Xmas.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Jp
When there is a round table of the opposition in play that is sincere and genuine, the Freedom Party, led by Christopher Gill, will take steps to inform SNP the way forward and pardon mutually all trespass.
In the meantime, you are free to walk and trample as you please.
Freedom Party will only highlight and detail the blunders as they arise.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
The only person that delete from this blogg is the moderator which is you guys. Am i wrong??
Otherwise all your anonymous aka yourselves would have been deleted long time. Am i wrong??
Once it's been sent, you're the only ones who can delete. No??
Mr. Gill said round table.
Not square table.
Not triangle table.
Not table with no legs.
God Bless Freedom Loving Seychellois!
If we could delete, 'pissed off' would have deleted your whole blogg...mate.
Mr. Gill said round table.
Not square table.
Not triangle table.
Not table with no legs.
God Bless Freedom Loving Seychellois!
SFP = SPPF, move the letters around a bit and add another P to it ;)
Brigitte i believe this is bogus because you normally do not know what to say look at your topics on religion with pissed off the last time when we where talking on mangoes.
This blog is super keep exposing guys.
Dir zot menm si zot koz lalang parey brigitte, lol pa ti a gou si brigitte i ramkalawan en boug pe apel son lekor non fanm hahaha ramkalawan in sanz gendre....
"Results show if the opposition was united in an assembly election, PL would win only 7 direct seats.
This cannot be a result of a sole SNP effort.
There is something in the air, that has altered the Seychellois mental state.
October 7, 2011 4:32 PM"
SNP's support was shown in May 2011elections, but what has altered the mental state is that the Alliance of Ramkalawan, Volcere and Boulle is responsible more or less to push that figure up to nearly 49.5%. It is evident that what the people wanted and has always wanted is for the opposition to unite to fight the system and clearly their support has manifested this. Now it is up to that opposition to decide if they are going to take the challenge and show they are worthy of this trust?? SFP could decide to get on board or remain marginalised but what is clear is that to coin the words of Michel "the people will judge us by our actions based on the trust they have given us last Saturday"!!
"bonafide" Seselwa = Ex-Colonial
Brigitte ou en boyo bef ou en ou pa ti ekout sfp letan zot ti dir ki pdm ek pl se enn menm.
alor vot pdm se vot sppf pl alor kouyon zot pou ganny zis nef (9) seat.
Vre bann snp pe derobe.
Gill bour dife menm brother men kas liki e nou a lib!!
Puppets of the Western World, that's what you lot are, dancing to the tunes of the IMFs & World Bank, while they liase with Governments all over the world to fcuk you lot over, divide & rule.
Carry on carry on.
Brigitte your statement is false.
SFP is a nationist party that advances the cause of bonafide Seychellois or Seychellois Rasin.
It does not advance the cause of Seychellois Fabrike or non bonafide Seychellois.
What is your point?
Has Quantatative Easing- prospect of money being printed to pay off bonds gotten your wires twisted of an early pay check?
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
It doesn't matter, unless you have proof, the rest of the world sees two 'democratically elected' Political Parties.
Carry carry on sir or madam.
I forget that with you guys, your word is your bond. Your word is Proof. Made in Seychelles.
Don't you want to delete it!!??
Go on...stop people from reading it...go on...delete everything from Brigitte....go on ;)
Seselwa Publication (PTY) LTD.
...errr Brigitte it's not pissed off its Pissedoff! Capish?
...oh and labous Gill and Jean Paul Issac and Jeanne D'arc is pi kaka because they talk shit!
There's enough shit coming from their mouth to block New York's whole sewer system!
I would have prefered it blocked khlafia^s shit flowing into our rivers than the whole NY sewer,the former directly affected us.
Jeanne D'Arc
Anyway ti son bann frer malbar ki ti kaka? So it's: SSDP: Same Shit Different Pundiki!
Non?
What is the problem with PISSEDOFF? He seems to know a lot about 'taba sal ek kaka'. Maybe PP should make him minister for sewerage.
Pissedoff, the accomplice to murder.Where ever he goes on blogs or posts he lives the smell of his piss every where, on facebook, aksglobal and on Seychelles reality.He is a vermin that needs to be spray with poison.
I really don't understand you guys!
Why do I get the impression that I am pissing you all off?
La zot le pwazonn mwa!?
Marnten Pissedoff, be komsi bannla y tro kontan ou la! :-D
Sheik Yerbouti
Olye kalomni Wavel akoz zot pa met tou zot zefor pou lager avek vre lenmi sppf. Si Seychelles Freedom Party y krwar y pou ganny siporter lopozisyon dan son kote par denigre ek kalomni y trompe. Mwan en voter ki ti boycott par reste se mwan, mon pa ti fer li pou Wavel mon ti fer pou sesel, pou nou pei, pou nou nasyon. Mon pa ti fer li akoz Christopher ti donn flyers, mon pann war flyers aktyelman. Mon desapwente avek SFP, dapre zot sa bann flyers ki zot pe distribye inn fer en direrans? En plis lapolis ti tay avek zot e anpes zot donn zot flyer! Alors flyers pa ti kapa ganny distribye, dimoun pann ganny. Zot pe reve. Mwa asire si zot tinn pran par dan eleksyon parlmanter zot ti pou ganny mwens vot ki David Pierre. La prezan zot pe esey fann propagand pou vol siporter snp, dp, ek boulle. Fer sorti zot zournal dimoun ya lir, ki zot pe espere. Sa bann kalite divisyon ki retard pei. Wavel inn travay pou sa pei mon krwar en ler zot bann sef y zalou li, sa karizma ek don ki y ennan pou ralye dimoun, nou pa kapab renye sa. Premyerman Gill napa karizma, y pa konn koz down to the people, y pa en people person, y annan en gro ego, y pa koz kreol byen y pa appeal to the grassroots, e grassroots ki mazorite. Fodre y rod en guru pou remodel li. En plis son stigma cross the floor, dimoun pa trust li. So avan zot kalomni ek fanm fo rimer ekszamin zotmenm e gete si zot electable.
When Gill finally organises a long overdue SFP public meeting, Jean Paul Isaac will be there in person and Jeanne D'Arc will be there in spirit. There's the promised throng. Gill's gone gaga.
At least Pierre can rely on Parti Lepep's rent-a-crowd for his meeting, just like he relied on Parti Lepep's rent-a-voter to jazz up PDM's score in the elections a few days ago.
There is also Gill's mate Viral Dhanjee and his off the wall political theory. Birds of feather and all that jazz. Like Gill, he thinks money maketh politician.
However, I am pleased to see that Dhanjee is using his money to challenge the constitutionality of the re-appointment of foreign judges. It is a much much better use of his money, than trying to get into politics.
Call me SNP Pathetic, if you like.
Mon kwar ki SFP pa fodre kre en rivalte kont okenn parti politik an partikilye. Sa lager i kont koripsyon, swa ou kont oswa o pou. Si ou en koronpi, fer ou sindo akoz ou rotin i anba lasan.
Mwan mon dakor ek sa parti akoz zot pa tri pike pou kritike ( Met en 'SIGAY' ek zot zanmi, pa les zot pran nou pou bann bet), e zour zot komans esite pou kritike mon pou ZIS TIR LEKOR.
SFP i la pou ranmas dega bann oposisyon fabrike kin ede esey met nou nanm dan bogi.
SESELWA POU RALYE DERYER SFP LA KI SNP IS LES TOMBE PAREY NOU TI SIPORT SNA LER SDP TI LES NOU TOMBE.
A FREEDOM LOVING SESELWA
La liki la! Banla inn war li kler!
Gill mon zom bann boug pe dres ou lapo lagel!
Vre selman. Mwan osi mon pa ti war oken flyers. Kote sa ti ganny distribye?
35000 flyers, at least I would have seen one with somebody.
Gill I bez lalang. He is a subject of ridicule in Victoria!
Face to face they talk to him seriously but as soon as he turns his back the giggling starts. This time next year SFP leader will be Jean Paul Isaac and Gill will be history. Jean Paul is only binding his time that little weasel! Pa i vre Jean Paul?
Tousala tito memem to.
zot delete zot kroi y donne zot power lo dimonde.
they are full of b/shit.
A United opposition will destroy PL.
A divided opposition will keep PL in place.
I have called for a united opposition even before I made a speech in SNP convention.
Condition of the speech, and I have a witness, is that Wavel Ramkalawan united the opposition before facing another election.
Wavel Ramkalawan promised he would do this.
He did not.
As a result, the MSR was formed and subsequently, after fighting PL and Gappy, the Freedom Party was born.
We have called for Boycott of Presidential elections that was not heard by any party in opposition, because the electoral reforms, democratic reforms after 18 years were not in place.
The opposition was window dressing all along.
Because this effort, I have been cursed and attacked by SNP because they know, people follow us in Freedom Party.
Naturally when you attack me or Freedom Party, we will expose you.
So either take steps to unite the opposition by round table, not triangle table, or we will be back in the BOYCOTT line.
You are all free to rubbish about, but when you do, you show why we do lose elections all the time, with SNP thinking. The politics of empty "kalomni"- characteristic of SNP style, is destructive to itself. So I suggest you settle down and intellectually grow up, since your leadership does not seem to be able to say that.
The file looks very interesting.I will take my time to sift through it.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Part II
We cannot afford more mistakes by the opposition.
Already, one week into the BOYCOTT results, SNP leadership is back to making mistakes again just like they did for 18 years.
This is not a question of right or wrong, as some people misunderstand it to be.
It is a question of making sound decisions and secondly, having everyone on board to effect the outcome of sound decisions.
Finally, it is a question of achieving an end that is sought: Democracy and Freedom.
If you get it wrong, we will back to being window dressing for PL for another 18 years.
If you are men, act like a solid man. If you are women, act like a solid woman.
The time for name calling is over.
Move on.
The strategy of killing off opponents will fail again like it did with the DP.
If DP is ever in trouble, I will gladly help them. Right now, they are doing just fine.
So do not think SNP is about to kill off anyone in the opposition.
If SNP needs help, I will help you too. But as I said to your leader many times, you guys need to change your ways and change your thinking and outlook, because it is the source of your frustrations and failures over and over again and again.
I have a brother that thinks just like you guys. So I know how to handle this mental disposition that has gripped you all.
We will BOYCOTT again if we are not delivered DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Constitution means what it says; says what it means
What is not clear from what is being reported is whether Pierre is also saying that the constitution requires the calculation for proportional seats to be based on valid votes. This would be an argument that the constitution does not mean what it says when it says that Pierre needed 10% of votes cast not valid votes. Pierre is asking judges to rewrite election terminology and this will make the judges a laughing stock. Votes cast mean all valid ballot papers placed in the ballot boxes. Valid votes mean votes to be counted for the election candidates. The turnout of 74% was based on votes cast. In countries where voting is compulsory, there is a big difference between votes cast and valid votes. In Seychelles, voting is practically compulsory and many voters chose not to vote for either PL or PDM. They saw absolutely no difference between the two. Quite rightly too.
Even if Gappy's calculations show that he used valid votes in the past (it made no difference to the allocation of seats), Gappy's mistakes do not set precedents and do not override constitutional provisions. Good judicial decisions set precedents. It would be ironic if the judges were to cede that power to the Chairman of the Electoral Commission, and set precedents for future cases in other areas. If the judges were tempted to indulge in judicial rigmarole to please Parti Lepep government once again, they will be undermining their own role. A shaggy-dog judgement will do just that.
Pierre under the cosh
Pierre told us in April he was a man of logic. We gave him the benefit of the doubt back then. In August, while logical men and women were exhorting the opposition to boycott the polls, Pierre put together a makeshift political outfit to contest them. He is now defying logic by arguing against facts and a clearly written provision of our constitution. He can't have much respect for the judges. The judges should return the compliment in kind in a few days time.
Having sparked off the biggest number of spoilt votes in the history of Seychelles, Pierre is shameless and now wants the constitution soiled so that he can squeeze into the national assembly. If Pierre is finding himself under the cosh, it is because he is a traitor. Traitors watch out !
Pierre goes to court to get crumbs of comfort; logic defied, wants constitution defiled
After the drubbing he got at the hands of an angry electorate last week, Pierre shifts to the constitutional court to find some reward for his treachery. After having failed to get elected by the electorate, he is now seeking election by the judiciary. He is hoping that our reviled judges, with their reputation for pro-government decisions, will defy logic and defile schedule 4(2) of our constitution and hand Pierre the 10% that he spectacularly failed to poll. In court, Pierre is represented by Basil Hoareau who endorsed James Michel in a PPB in the presidential elections.
It is unclear what Pierre is disputing in court, apart from that fact he was not given a proportional seat by the Electoral Commission. He calculated that bagging a seat would be plain sailing, with the real opposition boycotting the polls and fear driving people to the polls. He miscalculated.
Is he arguing that, in the past, proportional seats have been calculated on valid votes and that this method of calculation should be maintained for 2011 elections ? From what has been reported, this appears to be his main argument. Pierre is plainly wrong there. We know that the calculation should have been based on votes cast since 1996. Hendricks Gappy has said publicly that the calculation was based on votes cast. How does Pierre know that the calculation was based on valid votes ? Is he expecting incriminating documents to emerge from the former Electoral Commissioner's office ? In fact, we can all see that the allocation of seats was based on votes cast. No party got an extra seat or was denied a seat because the calculation was erroneously based on valid votes. In fact, as we know now very well, it made no difference to proportional seats even if Gappy might have made an error, because of the low number of spoilt votes in previous elections.
Greedy Pieere wants a seat in the Assemby in order to pocket the salry he want get now that he failed.I got a job for him ,Pp is recruiting more Escobar to operate blackmarket now that a devalution is inevitable in the coming months,all cents count for Pp's survival even that of drug dealers.Go for it Pierre!
Jeanne D'Arc
La kouyon i sal menm monn tande bannla pe al donn plas pou bernard george run parti ver.
Sa boug in bez vol en ta malere pou li koz gran fes e la i le vin lider vre dan sa parti ver zot sal.
En bernard mon konn en dil mwan ki ou pa konnen, letan nou ti kas biro gill ti annnan dokiman lo ou tou laba e pou fer ou kaka dan ou kannson ti annnan en ricording kot ou ti pe sey vol larzan scholes avek bribe ziz, ou pou bez anndan si vreman gill i pibliy sa mon tande sa ricording ti dan email jpi letan i ti kite kot volcere.
en zwer state house
La kouyon i sal menm monn tande bannla pe al donn plas pou bernard george run parti ver.
Sa boug in bez vol en ta malere pou li koz gran fes e la i le vin lider vre dan sa parti ver zot sal.
En bernard mon konn en dil mwan ki ou pa konnen, letan nou ti kas biro gill ti annnan dokiman lo ou tou laba e pou fer ou kaka dan ou kannson ti annnan en ricording kot ou ti pe sey vol larzan scholes avek bribe ziz, ou pou bez anndan si vreman gill i pibliy sa mon tande sa ricording ti dan email jpi letan i ti kite kot volcere.
en zwer state house
Mwan mon kwar ki presidan i devret anvoy gard al fouy kot Jean Paul Isaac, Gill, Jeanne D'arc et dan biro SFP e mem zot bann koneksyon konman Dhanjee pou rod tou sa bann dokimen blackmail akoz la nou pe konmans war ki la klik SFP are nothing but blackmailers and we all know that blackmail is a crime!
I call on president Michel to act on this blackmail treat that is going on here! For years Gill have been saying that he has files and evidence on everyone but everyone! He is nothing but a criminal who will retort to blackmail his victims if he doesn't get his way!
Part of our social rennaissance is based on morality and blackmail is not only criminal but also immoral!
I beseech the president to take action against this criminal gang operation under the guise of a political party!
I meant "operating" but I will not diminish the impoact of my statement with corrections anymore!
Gill; I am going to personally bring you and JPI down!
There is zero tolerance for thugs operating behind a political party creating a culture of fear on our citizens.
You are going down boyo!
You do not have to make it public,that is your porfession in the Pp ,just go for it,but keep in mind the world is changing and no dicator and cronies are safe.This might be your last crime go for it.
Jeanne D'Arc
Pissedoff
i think you have really been disturbed mentally by the shock the boycott did.So far you been hiding your real face behind the PC screen but it seems to me the seism sdone by the boycott is such that you no longer have control of yourself.What is the problem?Is it maybe your concern that you will no longer pocket this fat cat salary you were receiving asmember of the Assembly or what?
You seems to be very agressive and angry to the person of Chris and SFP,but SFP is also the oppostion why are you complaining about SFP when the autocrate regime we supposed to fight against is PP ?Tell us Pissedoff.
Jeanne D'Arc
We gave up morality in return for 34+ years of SPUP/SPPF/Parti Lepep. It was a straight swap.
It follows that moral renaissance means the downfall of Parti Lepep. It's a straight swap once again.
Renaissance is the period which got Europe our of the dark Ages. Michel definition of Renaissance(rebirth) moral has nothing to do with the origine definition which is getting out of the dark into the light,for Michel is the opposition.Instead of bringign democratic reforms promised by RENE he has taken must back in the dark days of one party state.One party state Michel is inimical to democracy and it can not change itself to any other system than that of autocratic/dictatorial system.Michel's renaissance is going back to the feudal time in which he is the feudal lord.
Jeanne D'Arc
ZOT MON VOIR B SAMLAYE E BAIS SON LATET ATERRE LETEMP MERITON PE KOSER,ESKI SA BANN PAROL PE RESONE DA SON LATET POU BAN LETEMP KI E TI FAIR NYS?
The current opposition in this country is condemned to fail over and over again because you clearly contradict yourselves over and over again. On one hand you boycott elections because you state that there is no fair play yet you take the results of the last election and use results to claim victory. We all agree that the process of voting is free and fair but unhappy about the use of state resources by the ruling party. Therefore if people can vote with secrecy why did they not give a majority to the opposition in the last presidential election this year ? The answer is simple, we the Seychellois people are fed up of you politicians and at the end of the day choose a party that is the best of the bad lot. Michel still is the best out of a bad lot. Maybe real change will come when Lepep disintegrate when Michel steps down. There is a leadership crisis in Lepep. Get real all of you and accept what is logical. Stop dreaming and think that all abstentions and spoilt votes belong to the opposition......wishful thinking.
Defies logic.
Logic seychelles freedom party uses the last election result to make reference because it did not take part in the rig process sfp then msr contested that the voters list was not credible, for your information the biggest win out of this boycott is the msr creed which was deemed racist and xenophobic by PL.
So what happened to allof ramadoss malbar that holds seychellois passport, siva, suliman and many more why did they not vote?? Was it too risky that the world would see.
Too many passports have been sold or gifted in seychelles by sppf now pl, exposing this is sfp's first win second win isthe fact that gappy made it openly that he worked for the state not independent of the executive he refrained from announcing the proper result after assisting in creating a fake opposition.
Another win third win is that we showed all of those opposition who looked down on us and today waiting for us to jump for them to say how high when they went into a rig Presidential election.
And last but not least we showed for how long democracy was been surpressed by the state with the aid of the main opposition party snp for the greed of money without thinking twice about the people.
A smart politician would always work for the people ,to the people and by the people. In seychelles case politicians wanted people to respect them rather than they do vice versa. Remember it s not the quantity alone that count it is quantity and quality equals overboard!!
logic
is not the election results that make us claim victory ,it is our strategy of boycott which was a historic victory for all freedom loving Seychellois which are in the majority.SFP leadership and supporters have a right to enjoy this successful victory,becuase it shows two important things amongst others 1)That the people want change and new direction nad 2)that they needed leadership which has been inxesistance for the fast eighteen years.That the people answered to our call for boycott proved hat they have found a leader that they can follow and this leader happen to be Chris (SFP).There is nothing to be angry,jealous about it-the thing is that Chris talks the talk,he walks the walk ,that what makes him popular :You have weihteen years to prove yourselves ,by greed and your appetite for money ,you have helped Pp longevity.
Stop complaining,accept the reality.You still have a choice take this opportunity and use it to clear-polish your damaging image,it can be a Renissance moral for you or continue ignoring the people,then you will have to pay for your stubborness and refusal to change.Come clear RAM.
SNP.No greater challenge confronts our country than turning our politics from trust deficit to a civilize mode of existence where visical mistrust and deception have no place and where open debate,learning by engaging in productive controversy in a sordial atmosphere has everything to play for.
The round table is ready,the doors are large open,the issues are on the table too,only RAm still rejecting to join in in order to move forward.Get to the stick RAm,it is time to do something for this country.It has made you millionaire now it is time to give back to the people.
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc
Ask Chris if the table has legs.
TO JEAN PAUL ISAAC & GILL:
I thought you guy had substance! What happened to all the palaver about marching to State House after the election and if necessary shooting your way there? When is your “high noon” Gary and Clint...errr totof and Zanpol?
There was more going on here before the election than now – what has happened, lost your steam? Run out of ammo? Let me know if you need a map to State house! O.K.?
I laugh at you guys – zot parey de dyoker dan pake kart!....Zandark parey lareine tref!
Can't wait to hear from La Reine tref....ek so de dyoker...
Teh! Heh!
I can understand your deception and discontentment and it is true that the effect of SFP has drained away supporters from SNP,but you must accept the fact that it is a result of your own making.
SNP who are you possing Pp autocracy or those in the opposition ?On which side are you with the people or with PP?Have asked you to crititcize the opposition in order that it may gives SNP a second change?Clarify your position RAM.
Jeanne D'Arc
So it's not "State House anytime soon"! Is it?
Pissedoff
The people have spoken,now the ball is in Pp^s court ,to bring about those changes the people have asked for.I^ll repeat again ,if PP does not change we will change them.We will react according to Pp comportment and at our own speed.
If Pp asks for it, it will get it.
Jeanne D'Arc
Of course the people have spoken – for once you are right!
The people have voted a full house!
The ball's in our court and we're scoring!
The people did not vote Pp in the house,Pp voted itself in the house.And under autocratic system it is something expected.The ball is in Pp's,RAM,PDM court and as the servants of the people ,the people expect them to abide by their demands or the people will come for them.
There is no turning back ,the engine of change has started and moving forward no one willbe able stop it.
Jeanne D'Arc
I did not see any kabri, mouton, bef or koson voting that day. I only saw people so how come you're saying the people did not vote Pp in office!
Obviously Gill is not paying Jeanne D'Arc enough otherwise she wouldn't be writing all the shit that she does everyday!
I repeat Pp voted itself in office.If it was not the case why didPP find it necessary to illegally dissolved the Assembly,created a fake party,appointed an Electoral Commisision of it choice?If Pp was sure the people would have voted them in officethere would have been no need to fake the whole process.
Jeanne D'Arc
It's all good, it's all gonna be documented in the email to the necessary Human Rights Authorities and IMF and World Bank. And the response will all be documented in the Seselwa Publication (PTY) LTD.
How can we have a logical conclusion when the premises implied have not been tested and validated? We all have the right to assume but we cannot impose our POV unto others on the basis of one true statement.
Aret servi sa mo 'LOGIC' si nou napa plis ki en 'statement' ki vre
A FREEDOM LOVING SESELWA.
Unlike ramkalawan who needs to pay people to go to christopher gills blog to creat lies and disorder.
Gill gets people of calibre seychellois to deal with them at no cost. jean paul is attacked yet i see him driving around mahe while comments pop up and he is being cursed or accused.
They are in a meeting with citizen democracy watch seychelles snp is calling them out while they get bashed by freedom loving seychellois online.
Ramkalawan is truly a failure he could not creat a single decent blog for seychellois to debate and he ended with regar closed now he is so scared of seselwa magazine because he thinks this will bury him in his casket finally.
Gill is taking his sweet time to release because he knows that priest millionaire needs to pay off to get people to blog for snp so indirectly he gives back the money to the community that he voted for himself over state house discussions and tea.
Le Seychellois Hebdo (aka Regar)
leseychellois@seychelles.net
Seselwa Publication (PTY) LTD??
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME FIND THE SNP BLOGS? Where is your blog?
Pissedoff said...
TO JEAN PAUL ISAAC & GILL:
I thought you guy had substance! What happened to all the palaver about marching to State House after the election
Why would SFP march to state house if ramkalawan is already having tea with michel negotiating another fixed pay and re terms of his life pension to sell out democracy for only electoral reform when it is but a minor pebble in a sack of rocks.
Some of you snp wants to send police to gill and jpi's home you guys are funny very very funny can't you see that joel morgan sent popo to arpent vert because you guys deal with PL, as for sfp they sent thugs to brake in three times in a row even Gills garage got arson.
You make me sick you green lanterns with your tails tied between your legs ready to wag when michel wants to throw some crums your way, your buldog has a mind of a chihuahua and is the master most belovied pet yet you lanterns fear him and would enrich his fat belly with human livers if you had to..
Why don't you go such on a candy stick!! Let SFP free us from your mess,
Seselwa Magazin ? Pipe dream.
Reply to: "Why would SFP march to state house if ramkalawan is already having tea with michel negotiating another fixed pay and re terms of his life pension to sell out democracy for only electoral reform when it is but a minor pebble in a sack of rocks.”
BECAUSE; Christopher Gill and Jean Paul Isaac said that AFTER the assembly election they will march to State House and DEMAND that Michel resign even if they have to march there with GUNS!
Didn’t you say that?
SFP and all their clicques (three to be precise) Gill, Isaac and La Reine Tref are just so full of a mixture of shit and hot air!
I for one after today will not be wasting my time on here again and if any one of you bloggers had any brains, you'd keep away from Gill's piss-pot of a blogg because they are only here for self glorification. The guy is an attention sikker....seeker!
Nou pou mont State House! Nou pou al fer liki! Nwa mem bez zot ek bal si fodre! Nou pa per!
Eoula Gill ek Zanpol bous zot boyo don bann kouyon nou ti a'pe esper zot monte - vini ban liki!
It's true Christopher you and JPI did make those threats and this is tantamount to terrorism. Something that for obvious reasons the Seychelles Authorities have decided not to pursue maybe because they don't read these bloggs.
PISSEDOFF IS WAITING FOR US TO MARCH FOR FREEDOM SO THAT IT WILL FIND A REASON TO TAKE A FEW MORE LIFE. SORRY, AT THIS TIME. GILL IS TOO VALUABLE TO THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE SEYCHELLES TO LET CONFRONT THE MURDERERS. OUR LIST OF MARTYRS IS LONG ENOUGH COMPARE TO THE SIZE OF OUR NATION.
THE PEOPLE HAVE WAITED FOR OVER 3 DECADES FOR EQUALITY AND JUSTICE TO REACH OUR SHORE , WE CAN WAIT FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS FOR PP TO DESTROY ITSELF.
BY THE WAY, DO WE REALLY NEED AN ASSEMBLY? I THINK WE ARE WASTING THE PEOPLE'S MONEY. WE SHOULD JUST TAKE OUR ORDERS FROM STATE HOUSE AND GET RID OF THEM FOOLS.
"WE SHOULD JUST TAKE OUR ORDERS FROM STATE HOUSE AND GET RID OF THEM FOOLS."
The blame keeps going to the smaller & smaller & smaller & smaller fishes.
Now it's the DA's fault, ok, let's just take orders from State House, ok.
Next in line are the People, ok ;)
All the smaller fishes will reside in the big fish-tank at State House...
The potatoes you are sending over to us from the UK are well package but none of them are edible...
Maybe you can take some of the small fishes with you to UK to reform the House of Common...
Pissedoff
Those who march with guns to confiscate power from the people are criminals,like your mantor Michel and cronies,Fredom loving poeple use people revolution for it s^more powerful the guns,recent memories show that Tunisai,Egypt,Yemen,Lybia,BAhrain etc,etc..It is true that dictator prefers their guns as a panacea for they can not use their brain.
We will march not when Pp,SNP,RAm think we should,but when we think it is necessary and the people ask us to do so.SFP is not a stooge party to PP but the opposite,its ideology is base on freddom,democracy,human rights not terror,represention and intmidation that you support.
My advice why Ask RAM to come out clean by making public where he stands-Is it in the opposition or he is still a PP stooge?
Jeanne D'Arc
Hey I’m not telling you to march! I am just going back to all the empty threats that your loudmouth son ZanpolIzak and master Totof were making prior to the election!
I know now that you guys cannot pissmeoff because you have nothing but a shackful of empty threats and I didn’t mean “sackful”! You know; barik vid i fer tapaz and all that jazz! Anyway the people would have kicked your pitiful arses had you tried anything – you would have discovered the “Seychelles spring” at the end of their foot!
Thank you Pissedoff and Briget for helping me make my decision to join SFP.
Another comment to self?!
Arwi Totof ounn bez en malediksoyn per milioner paposib foutou!
So, la kombyen membre sa enn i fer ou...16,001?
Fake politician or fake priest!
Take your pick! Favours can get you to high places but it cannot alter the reality. It is like entering heaven in the back-door and then asking for an extension to go back to earth in order to acquire wealth from politics.
IT IS EASIER FOR AN ELEPHANT TO PASS THROUGH A NEDDLE EYE THAN A ILL RICH PRIEST TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD
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