Information and Evidence Unit,
Office of the Prosecutor,
2500CM The Hague,
Netherlands.
Thursday 15th of December 2011.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I respectfully request your attention to the issue of human rights abuses in the Republic of Seychelles since 1977.
Since the overthrow of the legitimate government of Sir James Mancham on the 5th of June 1977 by Mr. France Albert Rene
and the present President James Michel, there has been numerous Seychelles citizen who has disappeared and also found
murdered due to their political views towards the Government.
I am deeply appauled by the Seychelles Government non compliance for a thorough investigation into these matters.
I remain concerned about reports of continued violence, threats and intimidation of human rights defenders, activists and
journalists.
Moreover, despite the Seychelles binding obligations to respect human rights and democratic freedoms under the Seychelles Constitution
and also being a signatory of the United Nations Convention on human rights, the Government of Seychelles systematically stifles peaceful
criticism and political dissent and indeed all forms of free expression.
Despite guarantees of freedom of expression in the constitution, the government has pursued a fierce crackdown on human rights defenders
expressing peaceful criticism or appealing for democratic reforms.
I would therefore be grateful on behalf of all families who have lost love ones to send one of your representative to the Seychelles so that
an independent investigation can take place as soon as possible.
Please find below a list of names and dates of their murder or disappearance.
May i thank you in advance for your co operation and a reply will be much appreciated.
Yours Sincerely,
Gary E. Tall.
Seychelles Freedom Party.
United Kingdom.
Office of the Prosecutor,
2500CM The Hague,
Netherlands.
Thursday 15th of December 2011.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I respectfully request your attention to the issue of human rights abuses in the Republic of Seychelles since 1977.
Since the overthrow of the legitimate government of Sir James Mancham on the 5th of June 1977 by Mr. France Albert Rene
and the present President James Michel, there has been numerous Seychelles citizen who has disappeared and also found
murdered due to their political views towards the Government.
I am deeply appauled by the Seychelles Government non compliance for a thorough investigation into these matters.
I remain concerned about reports of continued violence, threats and intimidation of human rights defenders, activists and
journalists.
Moreover, despite the Seychelles binding obligations to respect human rights and democratic freedoms under the Seychelles Constitution
and also being a signatory of the United Nations Convention on human rights, the Government of Seychelles systematically stifles peaceful
criticism and political dissent and indeed all forms of free expression.
Despite guarantees of freedom of expression in the constitution, the government has pursued a fierce crackdown on human rights defenders
expressing peaceful criticism or appealing for democratic reforms.
I would therefore be grateful on behalf of all families who have lost love ones to send one of your representative to the Seychelles so that
an independent investigation can take place as soon as possible.
Please find below a list of names and dates of their murder or disappearance.
May i thank you in advance for your co operation and a reply will be much appreciated.
Yours Sincerely,
Gary E. Tall.
Seychelles Freedom Party.
United Kingdom.
Davidson Chang-Him: Shot dead at Victoria Police Station on the 5th of June 1977.
Berard Jeanine: A dedicated Police Officer who was murdered doing his job by protecting the country. He refused to hand over the armory keys
on the morning of the 5th June 1977 and was shot dead.
Gilbert Morgan: He disappeared during the night of February 7th 1977 at the Reef Hotel. He left behind his wife Sylvia and 2 children.
Gerard Hoarau: The popular leader of the Seychellois National Movement .Assassinated in London by a paid gunman.
Alton Ah-Time: Disappeared one night in September 1984 never to be seen again.
Simon Denousse and Mike Asher: Tortured and murdered on the 19th October 1982.Bodies were found in a burnt car belonging to Mr Denousse.
Jean Guillaume: Went missing on the 9th of August 1984.
Hassan Ali Umarji: A prominent businessman disappeared never to be seen again on August 1977.Left behind his partner and three children.
Tony Elizabeth and Micheal Hoffman: Murdered on the 23rd July 1983.
Ricky Hermitte: Murdered in Seychelles. He was only 22 years old.
Ryan Lesperance: 18 years old from the Island of Praslin. His body was recovered floating under a bridge at Cap Samy.
Damandra Eulentin: A 26 year old Seychellois who was killed in the most horrific circumstances on the 6th of March 2007.
Andrew Pouponneau: Murdered by Tanzanian soldiers during the rebellion.
Francis Monchuguy: The youngest family of five children born to Paul Monchuguy and his wife Flo Monchuguy of Pointe Larue. Francis, at the age of 19 disappeared without a trace soon after his father was arrested for making supposedly insulting remarks against Albert Rene...Mr. Paul Monchuguy was then the chairman of the opposition Democratic Party at Pointe Larue.
Berard Jeanine: A dedicated Police Officer who was murdered doing his job by protecting the country. He refused to hand over the armory keys
on the morning of the 5th June 1977 and was shot dead.
Gilbert Morgan: He disappeared during the night of February 7th 1977 at the Reef Hotel. He left behind his wife Sylvia and 2 children.
Gerard Hoarau: The popular leader of the Seychellois National Movement .Assassinated in London by a paid gunman.
Alton Ah-Time: Disappeared one night in September 1984 never to be seen again.
Simon Denousse and Mike Asher: Tortured and murdered on the 19th October 1982.Bodies were found in a burnt car belonging to Mr Denousse.
Jean Guillaume: Went missing on the 9th of August 1984.
Hassan Ali Umarji: A prominent businessman disappeared never to be seen again on August 1977.Left behind his partner and three children.
Tony Elizabeth and Micheal Hoffman: Murdered on the 23rd July 1983.
Ricky Hermitte: Murdered in Seychelles. He was only 22 years old.
Ryan Lesperance: 18 years old from the Island of Praslin. His body was recovered floating under a bridge at Cap Samy.
Damandra Eulentin: A 26 year old Seychellois who was killed in the most horrific circumstances on the 6th of March 2007.
Andrew Pouponneau: Murdered by Tanzanian soldiers during the rebellion.
Francis Monchuguy: The youngest family of five children born to Paul Monchuguy and his wife Flo Monchuguy of Pointe Larue. Francis, at the age of 19 disappeared without a trace soon after his father was arrested for making supposedly insulting remarks against Albert Rene...Mr. Paul Monchuguy was then the chairman of the opposition Democratic Party at Pointe Larue.
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THAT'S IT.THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING SINCE 2 YEARS AGO ON THE PREVIOUS BLOG -STAR-
THIS IS WORTH MORE THAN 365 DAYS IN THE FAKE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. WELL DONE.. THIS IS WHAT I CALLED THE EXTERNAL APPROACH AND IT WILL BRING MORE THAN JUST THE DAY TO DAY POLITICS IN THE CHICKEN HOUSE...
wrong place
The ICC was recently set up. It does not deal with crimes committed before it was set up. Good propaganda but don't expect ICC to take it seriously.
Crimes against humanity have NO EXPIRATION DATES! what are you trying to say? previous blogger?
There are still world war II criminals being prosecuted!!! You must be one of RENE"S FAITHFUL WELL PAID CRONIES!
The third blogger seems to know well the time limit for prosecuting people for crimes against humanity.
Maybe he or she may have been involved in the murder or disappearance of the above lists of individuals.
You lot at SFP are ignorant.
Crimes committed in Seychelles must be prosecuted in Seychelles. Try bringing a case against Rene in Seychelles.
here's wikipedia on ICC.
The International Criminal Court (French: Cour pénale internationale; commonly referred to as the ICC or ICCt)[1] is a permanent tribunal to prosecute individuals for genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression (although it cannot currently and will in no way before 2017[2] be able to exercise jurisdiction over the crime of aggression).[3][4]
It came into being on 1 July 2002—the date its founding treaty, the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, entered into force[5]—and it can only prosecute crimes committed on or after that date.[6] The Court's official seat is in The Hague, Netherlands, but its proceedings may take place anywhere.[7]
Here's article 11 of the Rome statute that set up the ICC.
Article 11
Jurisdiction ratione temporis
1. The Court has jurisdiction only with respect to crimes committed after the entry into force of this Statute.
2. If a State becomes a Party to this Statute after its entry into force, the Court may exercise its jurisdiction only with respect to crimes committed after the entry into force of this Statute for that State, unless that State has made a declaration under article 12, paragraph 3.
Seychelles 'joined' ICC on 1 November 2010. So, only crimes committed after that date can be prosecuted by the ICC.
I am just trying to help the ignorants at SFP, so that they do not make a fool of themselves.
Since 1 November 2010, there has been no crime by Seychelles Government that the ICC would be interested in.
The crime that the Seychelles Government are likely to be guilty of in the future, based on what happened in the second republic, is:
Crimes against humanity, as defined by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court Explanatory Memorandum, "are particularly odious offenses in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of one or more human beings. They are not isolated or sporadic events, but are part either of a government policy (although the perpetrators need not identify themselves with this policy) or of a wide practice of atrocities tolerated or condoned by a government or a de facto authority. Murder; extermination; torture; rape; political, racial, or religious persecution and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice. Isolated inhumane acts of this nature may constitute grave infringements of human rights, or depending on the circumstances, war crimes, but may fall short of falling into the category of crimes under discussion."[1]
War crimes will apply if there is a rebellion. armed uprising and the like.
If there is a brutal crackdown on unarmed demonstrators and the government uses arms against these demonstrators and some are injured or killed, that would constitute a crime against humanity.
That is why Parti Lepep needs to be careful how it "polices" demonstrations, now that Seychelles has joined the ICC.
For instance, it can't put its gunmen in the Supreme Court building and let them fire on demonstrators who are demonstrating peacefully against the trial of Ralph Volcere.
This letter tells me that SFP is pretty incompetent. It does not know what the ICC does and it has not done its research.
So in this unjust Seychelles world of hardened criminals they are honoured and keep ruling us!
So how come world war II criminals are still being prosecuted!
Please do not discourage those seeking justice! which side are you ON!
I hope no one in your family has endured the torture and murders committed..Lucky you!Otherwise you would not be singing that tune!!!
About World War II war criminals. These are being prosecuted by countries under their national laws which existed at the time of the war or which have been enacted for the purpose of World War II. These people were not prosecuted after the war because they had fled or were living incognito. Once traced and identified, they can be prosecuted.
That is why France, Germany etc can prosecute a world war two criminal. Seychelles and many other countries have no laws to prosecute them, but can extradite them to a country that is interested in prosecuting them.
Apart from ICC crimes since 2002, crimes committed in Seychelles can only be prosecuted in Seychelles by a government willing to prosecute. They are not crimes recognised by other countries, until the ICC was set up for specific crimes. That is why Rene and the rest have got away with their crimes so far.
Until 2002, the Seychelles Government could massacre its citizens and no other countries could prosecute the perpetrators. Other countries and international organisations like UN could only issue condemnation and sanctions. Remember Tiananmen Square and others . Now there is the International Criminal Court but it has no power to go before 2002.
The crimes against humanity committed in Seychelles by the government before 2010 can only be prosecuted in Seychelles by a government willing to do so in future. Change the bloody government, if you want these crimes to be prosecuted.
It is not a tune. It is the facts. You can appeal to international organisations and foreign governments, but you will be wasting your time. Only a Seychelles government can prosecute these people. That means a future government that is not Parti Lepep.
The ICC has to act within the Rome Statue, otherwise its own actions will be "illegal".
You should concentrate on changing the government (and the judiciary).
to the well informed blogger..too bad you were not around when our country and our freedom were being violated or were you!to take the criminals to court then for violating our freedom and our people..we who were not even born yet are now living in hell.. so where does the buck stop!!
seychellois people always putting down each other..sad we will never accomplish anything good just fight amongst ourselves over words ..semantics..who is more moral and who is more right such hypocrisy..over whether we should say happy holidays or merry christmas..while the same ones who are arguing that do not truly have the true spirit of Christ they forget their own immorality .just love to preach to others..
The buck stops with YOU. Do something about it in Seychelles, if you want to bring these people to justice. ICC cannot help you. Take Leonard Gill's advice -- foreign institutions cannot help you, you must do it yourself.
If you want a new government to do things that you want done, stop dividing the opposition. Otherwise you will have to do something else that Leonard Gill has said -- buy arms from Somalia for an armed insurrection.
It is not a fight over words. You think ICC can prosecute Rene and others. You are wrong because the ICC has no power to act for crimes committed before 2002. SFP should have done its research before embarrassing itself.
No other country can prosecute Rene and that is why he is in and out of Australia on a regular basis. His crimes were committed in Seychelles against Seychellois and are not crimes elsewhere. That is the injustice that ICC is now trying to change, but for heinous crimes only.
If Rene does commit a new crime against humanity, Australia is now required to arrest him and send him to Hague. Australia has signed up to ICC. Incidentally the UAE has not signed up. Michel can flee there.
Good job Mr Gall
Michel probably pissed in his pant when we heard the news.donot forget to add the list of names of all those Seychellois who have
ICC has the power to judge whoever commited crimes and genocide against their people,If Miloschic,tailor,and others can be prosecuted their is no reason why a little monkey living under a coonut tree cannot be prosecuted so.ICC practice justice by the book,it is not a communist institution Pp crony.
Jeanne D'Arc
correction:All those seychellois who had disappeared and murdered by the butcher.
The education of stubborn SFP ignorants will take a very very long time. How many more are there ?
Milosevic and others from the former Yugoslavia conflicts were prosecuted by International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia which was set up in 1993 by the United Nations. He was not tried by the ICC which was set up in 2002 and is not part of the UN. Holland is doing nicely from all these international courts and tribunals located in the Hague.
International Tribunals are set up by specific UN resolutions for specific crimes/genocides, e.g. Rwanda.
Do not waste your time asking the UN to set up an International Tribunal for Seychelles just to look into a handful of murders and disappearances. They will not do it.
Charles Taylor is being tried by the Special Court for Sierra Leone, a United Nations body set up to "try those who bear greatest responsibility" for the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed in Sierra Leone after 30 November 1996 during the Sierra Leone Civil War.
This Court is located in Sierra Leone. But Taylor is being tried in the Hague because this is what the Sierra Leone government has asked.
Taylor is not being tried by the ICC and the UN Special Court for Sierra Leone does not apply to Seychelles.
With all respect for SFP's good intentions, but guys, you seriously need to look into yourselves and get your act straight if you want to be taken serious as a political party. And for Allah's sake, get rid of that ignorant who sent that letter, he'll drag you all down to his level and beat you with experience. If you are going to have an embassador in UK, then you may as well have chosen Sirop14 instead of Tall. At least he would be pardoned for being insane instead of being plain ignorant. I wouldn't let the guy even tender my camels.
Sheik Yerbouti
As for the ICC, the bit below is from wikipedia. Note the inclusion of Kenya, after the violence from the last presidential elections.
To date, the Court has opened investigations into seven situations in Africa: the Democratic Republic of the Congo; Uganda; the Central African Republic; Darfur, Sudan; the Republic of Kenya; the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya and the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire.[23][24] Of these seven, three were referred to the Court by the states parties (Uganda, Democratic Republic of the Congo and the Central African Republic), two were referred by the United Nations Security Council (Darfur and Libya) and two were begun proprio motu by the Prosecutor (Kenya and Côte d'Ivoire).
It publicly indicted 27 people, proceedings against 23 of whom are ongoing. The ICC has issued arrest warrants for 18 individuals and summonses to nine others. Five individuals are in custody and are being tried while eight individuals remain at large as fugitives (although one is reported to have died). Additionally, two individuals have been arrested by national authorities, but have not yet been transferred to the Court; the national authorities have indicated to be willing to try the suspects themselves. Proceedings against four individuals have finished following the death of two and the dismissal of charges against the other two.
Holland is indeed doing very well from the ICC and UN Tribunals. A lot of money is going into the Dutch economy from running these tribunals. A trial lasts years.
Why not Seychelles and all that money going into our economy ? For one, we are not known as a country where justice reigns supreme. A country with a bent justice system is not an ideal location for courts of international justice. Also, in 1977 we chose to be one of the bad guys and not the good guys and we have been ever since.
If we were not so tainted by SPPF/Parti Lepep's past, we could have been the location for these international courts. We would not have to go begging to Khalifa. When are we going to realise we took the wrong path in 1977. The only way to break completely with that past is to change the government.
Sheik Yerbuti
Go and teach your illetrate friends in Saudi Arabia,UAE, Qatar help them get out of their ignorance,teach them about human rights ,tell them to stop raping under age girls,stop fighting each others,stop using their fingers to clean their assholes their is today toilet papers invented by man for that,stop making women slaves etc...etc
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc
may i add this the blogger post at 2.58 P,M. In order to break with this past justice must be made else history is bound to repeat itself.
Jeanne D'Arc
"Anonymous said...
I am just trying to help the ignorants at SFP, so that they do not make a fool of themselves."
December 28, 2011 12:26 AM"
A bit late in the day for that mon ami...these guys are born morons and nincompoops!
...and Shake Yourbooty.....errrr Sheik Yerbouti has got it right about their "ambassador" (mwa pisse tee hee!) …he should be sent to Arabia to mop camel piss…non Mr Ambassador?
We in Seychelles here not in an Arb country what camel YErbuti said is not import.SFP is shaking the whole corrupt system something none of existing politcans or aprties have been able to do since their existance.
We must stop Khalifa,Ben laden whoever that want to islamize and colonize our christian land.
Khalifa wants to build his fantansy land in our homeland,we will not allow him to do so.What he want to do together with the butcher is import as many foreigners to illegally colonize our land ,incite religion coflicts and he want a population made up of ofreigners like in his own country UAE.Note that due to Arbs laziness Indains,Pakistanis,and other Asiens were brought in as cheap labour to work as slave for them but they diid not see the danger of the over population that these imported foreigners could brought ot his country thus soveiregnty ,today UAE has 85% of its and Khalifa cannot even ask them to leave for they might take arms thus take control of the whole country within minutes.As to religion note that in UAE constitution islam is state religion and the state its is an islamic one thus doe not accept or recognize of fates than islam.
STOP camel Khalfia now,Stop communist pp now.
Time for regime change.
Jeanne D'Arc
85% of its population are non-citizens.
Jeanne, you obviously have never tried kalele arab. Mon ser, sa i bon-bon-bon sa akoz bannla napa lapopip. Koumsa napa lanmar koko pou donn move gou ler ou koz dan mikro. Sey en kou wa war kot ou ossi ou sanz larelizyon apre met hijab. Bannla ossi zot raze plot, koums ou pa ganny plim kabo dan lagorz. Sanmem sa ki fer ou araze koumsa.
Sheik Yerbouti
NO but it will never happend for i am a human being not a camel thus do not practice sodomy and they have a taste for under age girls ,what today will call pedophile.I remind Mohammed raped Ashia at six and beucase Mohammed did it it is okay and should be followed by all pedophiles.
Jeanne D'Arc
You just increased the credibility of SFP Jeanne, way to go sister. You'll do great as Minister of foreign affairs and I can already see you in New York at UN making great speeches.
As Minister of Foreign Affairs, she will do slightly better than Jean Paul Adam, our great foreign disaster.
I fighting for our liberty,sovreignty,freEdom of expression,human rights ,democracy,i am not searching for anything than tthe above ,i will continue to do so unitl Pp communist is toppled thus we take back our country from those criminals.
I remind you of what i have aready told you ,if Pp does not change by itself ,we are going to change it and the deadline is until 2016.And that by fair and free elction,or by people protest or by force,Michel can choose what he wants.
Yes i think If obama does not react we should contact influencial politciains like Mr.John Mccain whose words always weigh in politics in the USA,there are others Jubson Philips of Minessota politcian and an anti-islamization activist,Adam Hamze of Florida and many others.
Jeanne DÂrc
Kouyon, if you want to change the regime then you have to start participating in elections for crying out loud. What's your excuse going to be in 2016 I wonder?
In 2016, will Parti Lepep take part in FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS ?
Will Parti Lepep continue to boycott FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS ?
What is it going to be ?
The totality of these killings can amount to genocide by definition.
The ICC can amend rules to deal with this.
This is the same regime that supplied arms to Rwanda and the Hutus which resulted in the genocide of Tutsi people.
SFP Congratulations. You have gotten the ball rolling. Keep it in play.
I have waited for years now for an opposition force to write something like this.
May God Bless you all.
As you people say: Sesel Pou Seselwa!
The totality of these killings can amount to genocide by definition.
The ICC can amend rules to deal with this.
This is the same regime that supplied arms to Rwanda and the Hutus which resulted in the genocide of Tutsi people.
SFP Congratulations. You have gotten the ball rolling. Keep it in play.
I have waited for years now for an opposition force to write something like this.
May God Bless you all.
As you people say: Sesel Pou Seselwa!
ICC can't amend "rules". Countries that belong to ICC can change "rules".
You lot need to know what you talk about !!!
"Reply to you lot need to learn a lot"-
ICC can bring charges of genocide wherein the member country fails to take action.
Seychelles is a country that has assented to the Convention Against Genocide. May 15th, 1992.
The systematic murdering of political opponents and a particular group in a country amounts to genocide. What group do you think the listed murdered belonged to?
I suggest you stay still as a mouse
as the New Year comes in and pray for sorry ass skin.
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
nothing is set in stone.. laws are are manmade and men of goodwill can cause new laws to be enacted I saw an article where Human rights abuse where people were brought to court even after supposedly the laws were not applicable.. whoever is writing to try to stop justice being carried out must be an implant for sure trying to discourage .. like those who pretend to be your friends and then maliciously try to "kill you"' and wear you down.. Keep up the fight!
Let's hope you get a response from ICC, putting you straight. Let's hope you have the guts to publish the response here.
SFP is 100% on the issue. They have done a bold and courageous move. Mouse should go spend the new year in silence.
Genocide is a crime under international law.
UN Convention on Punishment and Prevention of Genocide is assented to by Government of Seychelles in May 1992.
Genocide is defined as "a number of acts committed with the intent to destroy , in whole, or in part, a national grouping, or ethnic group, killing members of a group, causing serious bodily harm to members of a group.
Part I (Continue)
SFP is 100% on the issue. They have done a bold and courageous move. Mouse should go spend the new year in silence.
Genocide is a crime under international law.
UN Convention on Punishment and Prevention of Genocide is assented to by Government of Seychelles in May 1992.
Genocide is defined as "a number of acts committed with the intent to destroy , in whole, or in part, a national grouping, or ethnic group, killing members of a group, causing serious bodily harm to members of a group.
Part I (Continue)
Part II (Continue)
The Convention declares,there shall be no immunity, persons committing this crime,shall be punished, whether they are constitutional rulers,public figures, or private individuals.
The Convention regulates persons to be charged, will be tried by a competent tribunal of the state in which the act of genocide took place,or such international penal tribunal , as may have jurisdiction, with respect to any Contracting Party to the Convention on Prevention and Punishment of the act of Genocide.
Part III (Continue)
Part III
The crime of Genocide is a justiciable criminal offence under the Rome Statute. Unlike other UN Human Rights treaties,the Genocide Convention does not establish a specific monitoring body or committee.
It is stipulated that any contracting party may call upon the organs or committees of the United Nations to take action.
Cases may be brought by the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
Part III- End.
Looks like Mouse will have a New Year in silence.
There is the ball, now everyone just has to push it along.
Those murdered not listed, their families need to come forward. Many have been paid into silence, and must come forward, the list will only grow.
SFP does not play games with Communists.
Sesel Pou Seselwa.
What is GENOCIDE ? Does what is in SPF's letter amount to genocide ?
You have no idea what you are talking about.
There is a difference between HOMICIDE (murders) and GENOCIDE. SFP is pathetic.
Your first task then is to convince the UN that the murders and disappearances in Seychelles are genocide. Then the UN will set up a tribunal as for the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda. Be prepared to be laughed at.
SFP's letter to ICC is a big blunder due to ignorance.
The acts of SPPF fit squarely into the definition of Genocide.
The preliminary list of SFP Ambassador Tall, is a preliminary list, additional deaths will be added to it as we expose this crime upon our people, gone buried, for political expediency over the years.
Now, if you have another definition of Genocide, feel free to bring on to add to the debate.
Any UN Committee or organ, can call for an investigation into Genocide and cause to be brought forward, the culprits to face justice by international tribunal.
All your points raised about limitation for lack of jurisdiction is hog wash and rubbish.
Homicide systematically gone unsolved, involving the systematically the same group of people, is......genocide.
If I were you, I would exercise your right to silence, and do nothing, as is usually the best course of action in circumstances as such. The more you do, the more you say, will only dig your hole deeper.
Seychelles is our country, she is our patrimony. Our duty to her, is to serve her with dignity, and make her proud of who each and every Seychellois is.
In this effort, we must not sell her, we must not sell our dead brothers, nor must we ever try to sell their ghosts.
When we do, we sell ourselves, and we sell the future of our children.
Happy New Year!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
Just because you do not want what happened in Seychelles to fit into the definition of Genocide does not mean it does not.
Let us wait and see what surfaces from the investigations.
The SPPF were investigated for Genocide complicity in 1995 concerning Rwanda.
It's no big deal. Let justice take its course.
From the Convention of Punishemnt of the crime of genocide-which was adopted by resolution 260(iii)A by the Un General Assembly of 9 December 1948 is clear.Article " speaks for itslef- namely Genocide is not only butchering people,but any attempt to for instance,to modify an ethic group thus destroy it to favored nother group.I making reference to Pp crooked politcs of colonization or islamization of our land,that falls also under the heading genocide according to UN covention.
Jeanne D'Arc
Genocide applies to "any national group" not necessarily ethnic.
What do you call the banned opposition from 1977 onwards?
SPPF committed genocide under this definition.
The rules just have to applied to them to clean them up.
Any more killings, will just aggravate their situation.
Any more disappearances and any more thuggery will just add fuel to the fire at this time.
There will be no more political killing in Seychelles, our patrimony.
Happy New Year!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
Genocide applies to "any national group" not necessarily ethnic.
What do you call the banned opposition from 1977 onwards?
SPPF committed genocide under this definition.
The rules just have to applied to them to clean them up.
Any more killings, will just aggravate their situation.
Any more disappearances and any more thuggery will just add fuel to the fire at this time.
There will be no more political killing in Seychelles, our patrimony.
Happy New Year!
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
Gill, grow up and learn. Stop being stubborn and compounding your stupidity. Did you say three (3) of the six (6) SFP supporters studied in China and does that incude you ?
A dozen killings of political opponents by the state over 30 years is not genocide of any group.
It would be fair before any question is answer of where Chris ro thoers studied that the Butcher tell us where did he studied and his qualification.It seems he was not even educted enough to study in N.Korea.And where did Afif has hie degree in economy for he came exile to our land as a pseudo-journalist.Where did Morgan studied Military science? for he seems to be the acting Duputy minister of defence.Where did Leopold Payet studied Military science ?
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc
Reply to Grow Up Pathetic-
There are not 6 opponents. There are more. Seychelles is a small micro state. Killing 25 people in Seychelles is like killing 25,000 in a larger country.
In the time that these people were killed, how many were exiled out of fear and intimidation.
Today we know in Australia there are 25,000 Seychellois.
If the killings did not take place, would we have so many Seychellois leave their homeland at a period when great economic prospect loomed historically?
No.
Go start your own blog.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
45000 Seychellois live overseas.
SFP must form a committee to deal with the exile cause and engage the United Nations.
Any one who would like to help, please contact SFP.
There is a substantial amount of international funding available to repatriate exiled citizens to their homeland.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
Bad new year for Gill. Sounds ominous.
New Year resolutions:
1. I will not make a bloody fool of myself.
2. I will not dabble in international affairs, if I do not know what I am talking about.
3. For the love of Seychelles, I will shut down SFP and stop dividing the opposition.
4. I will show respect to billionaire priests.
Gill ignore these cock suckers. Do your thing.
People of Seychelles need solid leadership.
Push forward mate.
I personally like your tenacity and you make sense, even if it is out of the ordinary for simple minds.
Gill says 3 of the 6 studied in PRC.
Christ you have communists too around you!! Don^t you think the will sometimes and by the time you realize they already cross the floor to PP? Akoz ou kontan koz kouyon ban COMINIS.
KAPITALIS
If Gill does not want his political stunts exposed for what they are, he should stop criticising the opposition. He should concentrate on Parti Lepep. Otherwise, the lack of intelligence in SFP will be exposed on these blogs.
Congratulations SFP good initiative.
Only the sleeping fools will critic this letter.Keep it up.
Gill I am ex SNP I support SFP today, because I admire your courage and you are smart.
SNP people are just jealous of you and I know PL hate you because you do not need them.
Keep on fighting.
My friends and family back you all the way.
post 11.52
Which oppostion you talking about,is it SNP?It has been playing eighteen years long Pp stooge and i think that RAM also secretly visited Communist CHina and what was the purpose of his visit there no one knows not even his supporters ,so what are hiding RAM?
PDM is fictive ,it exist only in name.
Even when your are call opposition if you fake and fail to deliver you will be criticize and expose solution change your wayes ,stop being Pp stooge thus helping prolonging our people suffering .Lastly should SFP listen to parties that have failed to deliver and bullshit the people for eighteen years?the answer is straight forward ,it is a big No.
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc- 100%!
It seems SNP and DP could have concurred with these letters and write their own, but they have not.
Sleeping on the job?
Excellent job SFP.
No they are not sleeping on the job, they are waiting for Michel to tell them what to do next.
I nepli letan pou zis koze e fer pov malere Seselwa desann anvil pou ridikil zot lekor pou ki bann boug ki lo lapey parti o pouvwar i kontiyen ganny e fann bann fo piblisite.
Zoli zwe parti Laliberte at least dan sa pei i annan enn ki pa zis talk shit parey dalon Ralph Volcere, Frank Elizabeth i pas son letan dir avek Seselwa. Parey Volcere, Fader Alias malediksyon dan liniform ver ki pas son letan fil son grenn dan baro State House e bwar diven Phillip Boulee e dir lepep Seselwa ki li i kapab tir sa malediksyon ki parti lepep inn met lo nou pti pei.
Be Waval reken i ankor still pe desir trou fes malere, bill i ankor dan liki, manze pe kas fes, ou kontiyen grosi!
Bravo Christopher Gill ou omwen ou pou vinn sel boug ki pou kapab finalman e enn fwa pou tou fer Albert Rene, Alias, floranten antre sis pye dan lanfer. Nou tou dan Lans Bwalo nou siport ou. Pa zis ekri let me kontiyen vinn ek ou bann bon lide parey latab ronn. Mersi Bokou.
Kas kaka dan boyo.
kas kaka dan boyo sa mo i araz
solman kas kaka dan fes alber pa bez wavel ek volser
gill i so li nou konnen zis get lentelizans sa boug letan i ti dan lasanble
pli zoli move ki i ti kapa fer se "cross the floor" pou li ozordi vin bour dife dan masin lasigal. masire ki christopher pa pou priv seselwa laliberte menm wavel zot de volser parey petet akoz son parti i annan en bon pe zenn vreman kalifye pou debout pou son pei e ki pan pran okenn roupi ek etranze oswa parti lepep, se sa son lafors terib.
me kas kaka pa kas liki lopozisyon les gill vin diriz nou tou volser pou bez anndan le 25 zanvye wamkalawan si pa li david pierre ki pou pet son liki........nou pa pou vote pou "spongebob squarepants" seychelles freedom party ki la. nou p esper gill avek enpasyans pou konnen kwa ki vini apre sa boycott ki in boycott menm fader ek volser p esper samenm se sa linite dan lopozisyon.
siyen:KRAS DAN OU FES
At last i have got these bastards where i always wanted.
They are now trying to defend themselves.....lol...
SAW RESPECT TO YOUR MOTHER AND SESELWA BEFOR YOU SAW RESPECT TO BILLIONAR Sucker.This is a big big proplems seselwa have money and alchol any foriegners will come to Seychelle who have money will buy them with alchol ect... even their belonging they are giving away to foriegners.
Seselwa change.
New year resolutions.you know what you have to do this year bent with Kahlifa and he will a few dollars.
This year Pp must also
Or we must pressure Foreign Donors to make Pp accountable for every single cent they give to the thugtocratic regime.It has been a while that Foreign odnors are putting millions to be supposedly use to the country's development thus should have direct effects on the peoples lives.But unfortunately under Pp thugtocracy Donors money is being diverted from their orignal purposes:donors money goes directly into Pp coffers,use for buying elections,corrupting weak soul like RAm,pays spy to oppress opponents and so forth.Housing project on Perserverance Island is a good example-Though some money given by Foreign donors are being usedfor the project,the way those houses are then distributed is questionable.People are being hand -picked by Pp cronies at Districts level base of politcal favoritism.Foreign donors must ask Pp for accountability and transaprency and this can only be achieved by setting up an independence monitoring body.Foreign aids the way it is donated to date ,help Pp thugtocracy to further oppress its people and we then hope Foregn donors will act immediately for their help is participating in prolonging our people surfering not helping tfro its prosperity.
Foreign aids without accountability feed Pp thugtocracy.
Jeanne D'Arc
Correction-i meant thugocracy.
Ask donors to stop dealing with PP,that is the course of action, until Justice has been served.
Donors must not assist governments that use "political cleansing" as a tool to keep power.
It would be like funding the Genocide in Rwanda.
Ask donors to stop dealing with PP,that is the course of action, until Justice has been served.
Donors must not assist governments that use "political cleansing" as a tool to keep power.
It would be like funding the Genocide in Rwanda.
I am internal and understand political cleansing. This is true.
We also clean the streets of Victoria with unwanted under orders.
See the Nation for dead people found after hours in Victoria.
Count them since James Michel became President of Seychelles.
Then you will know why all the girls line up on one street.
I am internal and understand political cleansing. This is true.
We also clean the streets of Victoria with unwanted under orders.
See the Nation for dead people found after hours in Victoria.
Count them since James Michel became President of Seychelles.
Then you will know why all the girls line up on one street.
It is normal beofre Michel could not condcuted his murdering activities as his wishes for FAR was number one ,now he has all the killing machine in his hands and directly under his control he can commit murder at will now.
Jeanne D'Arc
Michel is trying to do the same as Myanmar Juntas by victimizing opposition emembers ,but Michel ignores that even the Military juntas is conducting change for it cannot survive any longer through intimidation,repression etc...
This year Michel send Xmas greeting to all Seychellois living abroad ,the same Seychellois pp forced to exile and refused to give them their rights to vote.
Michel is also doing what we told him to do or rather stealing our idea namely to set up a peermamment military base on one of our Coral island-Croetivy seemed to have been taken from Glenny and Siva and soon to be the place for military base.
Jeanne D'Arc
We should ask Michel what is his program to bring these Seychellois abroad back home.
He has none.
But he has a program to bring Arabs and South Africans and Russians to Seychelles.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
Tell us more about president Michel's program to bring the Arabs, Russians and South Africans to seychelles!
Full of shit as usual Totos!
Why don't we allow Michel to tell us about his program.
You tell us about it! Isn't it your job to expose Pp?
Liar!
Surely by now you must know that you have no credibility in seychelles!
PissedOff don't be angry Lucifer does not want you so you are safe for now.
Pissed off-
The people of Seychelles will piss on your grave as soon as you can have the beacons set.
Michel has sold the Seychelles patrimony systematically under his policy of "Seychelles For Arabs" program.
No one is best suited to explain this policy then James Michel himself.
We give him leave, to explain it to us.
Seselwa Unite!
Sesel Pou Seselwa!
Christopher Gill
Leader
Seychelles Freedom Party
Christopher Gill as usual, for someone who wants to give us Seychellois the impression that you are intelligent, you speak from you fat derriere bougla!
Michel has laid out his policies and agenda to the people of Seychelles whereas you are accusing him of having an "Arab policy" and since this has come from you your are hereby bound to explain it to us!
Your problem is that you are a liar and dishonest and you cannot substantiate any of these outrageous claims you keep feeding your bloggers with!
Who was it that said you suffer from verbal diarrhoea?
Go wear an adult diaper you lying fool!
Oh! And by the way Gill so what if people piss on my grave I'll be dead anyway but you, at the rate you are going people will be pissing and shitting all over you even before you are dead you phoney!
Jean Paul Isaac.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN!
PLEASE NOTE THAT SFP HAS BEEN CLOSED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!
YOU WILL ALL BE DULY INFORMED WHEN WE WILL RESUME BUSINESS.
ON BEHALF OF CHRISTOPHER AND MYSELF I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAITHFUL PARTICIPATIONS ALL THESE YEARS.
Jean Paul.
Everyone can resume debating Seychelles Politics on aksglobal.co.uk
http://aksforum.s2.bizhat.com/
Is this for real SFP is closed. We the bloggers and supporters need an explanation of what is ging on. Can someone please elaborate on this statement.
SNP crony Pissedoff is trying to confused people as SNP has been doing for last eighteen years and they still have not understand that faking ,lying,fooling people no long work.His crying out is signs of disperation for he knows working with Pp to steal,rob the people will be exposed to the public eyes.It hard to be a stooge of aDictaor in this 21st century,isn't it Piseedoff?
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D'arc a.k.a. Jean Paul Isaac alias ti Johnny legay where were you when the lights went out....yesterday?
In my house ,i use new tech anmey solar power supply,It is economic,environemntal friendly,cheap and effective.By the way that is what PP should be doing namely provide citizen with solar panels instead on raping again our environemnt by planting massive wind turbins on our coasts to destroy the natural beauty of our country.
Jeanne DÂrc
Members of Kenya government being indicted by ICC!
Robert Stravens PUC just fired!
Run for cover!
ICC has reached Kenya ,it won^t be long then before they visit the butcher !
When Is PP going to fire Glenny,David ;Adam those crooks who have stolen millions from our parastatals and never been asked for accoutability?
Jeanne D'Arc
Jeanne D*arc, when will you have your first B.M. of the year?
By De Way, ticreolleo asked you a question and you never answer him.
COMBYEN SANTER LOKAL OUN GANNY ESKA PREZEN, pou conpetysion 'POU BOUZ SESEL ANVER SENZMAN"?
Eski ou pe esper lanniverser lecenkzenmilnefsenswazenndiset
You want to know in advance in order to measure your change of success.It is a competition,and as in all competition there will be a winner only just like in Democractic Election ,you must get use of competitions thuaslo of winning or loosing.
Come on! show us your skill and talent ,i am sure you can do better than David Philoe,Patrick Victor combine.
It seems you having difficulty in finding the right lyric.
What about_:Walking along a deserted beach brings thoughts to mind.......
Jeanne D'Arc
Well he could also sing
"Zig Zag crossing the floor"
but Miley Cyrus beat him to the song...or he could also sing
"Walking the floor over you"
but thats already been done as well that's why he is going for the traditional moutya;
"Bat sa tanbour Zandark sa pa lapo ou manman ki lor la sa lapo ti Johnny ki lor la...
......err Is Pai,Tonio,Koubwa and Alipol ki ti met dan bannen is in the contest? How about LAREPIBLIK?
And Medaris with his famous "MWEN MON CONTAN MON MILISIA...MWAN MON CONTAN MON LARRME...
Mon pe vin anresistre byento.
The last decision by Constitutional court and the attempt by Michel to act illegally and above the court decision is another proof that Pp can not iterpret the rules of law and articles inthe constitution as we saw in Judas's case and Mathilda's abused of power.
Communists have been for the last four decades ignore our constitution ,they have no clue of how it works thus Michel's arbitary and illegal intervention in the justice decisions.
Jeanne DÂrc
Is it oldness or madness that makes you sound childish?It is about time to consult a psychatrist,we are concern by your absurb comments.
Jeanne Dârc
Ignore insults. Focus on facts.
If you want facts you're at the wrong address!
We know Pissedoff cannot be the right address to provide facts ,nor do we expect a communist fllower to freely do so.If he even attempt to open his mouth and speak out ,Michel will butcher him .
Jeanne D'Arc
No matter what I will never be able to master the art of fact-twisting and manipulation like you a.k.a. Jean Paul Isaac alias ti Johnny and The Gill brothers!
Like my granmounn used to say zot lalang ek fes bann maudit!
I am sure your 'granmounn' was not addressing Jean Paul Isaac alias ti Johnny or The Gill brothers when she said 'zot lalang ek fes bann maudit'.
I am sure your 'granmounn' was not addressing Jean Paul Isaac alias ti Johnny or The Gill brothers when she said 'zot lalang ek fes bann maudit'.
About World War II war criminals. These are being prosecuted by countries under their national laws which existed at the time of the war or which have been enacted for the purpose of World War II. These people were not prosecuted after the war because they had fled or were living incognito. Once traced and identified, they can be prosecuted. That is why France, Germany etc can prosecute a world war two criminal. Seychelles and many other countries have no laws to prosecute them, but can extradite them to a country that is interested in prosecuting them. Apart from ICC crimes since 2002, crimes committed in Seychelles can only be prosecuted in Seychelles by a government willing to prosecute. They are not crimes recognised by other countries, until the ICC was set up for specific crimes. That is why Rene and the rest have got away with their crimes so far. Until 2002, the Seychelles Government could massacre its citizens and no other countries could prosecute the perpetrators. Other countries and international organisations like UN could only issue condemnation and sanctions. Remember Tiananmen Square and others . Now there is the International Criminal Court but it has no power to go before 2002. The crimes against humanity committed in Seychelles by the government before 2010 can only be prosecuted in Seychelles by a government willing to do so in future. Change the bloody government, if you want these crimes to be prosecuted.
Im Alton son , l want to find out what happen to my father. As his child im asking Seychelles Government to give me some answers on the matter. I will need the help an support of all people that lost your love one to this so call Government!
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